Alan Moore talks about how he created Rorschach to be the most disgusting character imaginable. A total loser with no friends and a twisted view of the world.
He says he’s tired of all the fan boys who come up to him and tell him how Rorschach is them!
To be fair, Rorschach has a few traits worth emulating. He does have a rock solid sense of right and wrong and uhhhh… Yeah no, that’s about it.
I can’t remember the exact name, but there’s a common process with ongoing characters where the writers find themselves making their toughest characters nicer over time.
Both Wolverine and Jack Reacher were presented as unapproachable loners at first, and both mellowed considerably over time.
Rorschach was ‘lucky’ because he got to die a noble death before being forced to become civilized.
He’s also capable of backing his words up with actions. Although in the prison scene I guess the actions came first.
Pretty sure the “you’re locked in here with me” vibe. is what all the fanboys envision themselves as, but would never actually be to emulate.
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I didn’t say I agreed with his sense of right or wrong. But it’s very solid.
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and a love of beans
Acutely relatable trait
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Well the willing suspension of disbelief is adjusted based on the story being told. If you say there’s a made-up kingdom where animals talk in the exposition, that’s fine. But if you say it takes place in a world that’s basically our own, then one person can randomly shoot lasers from their eyes, you should give some explanation. It doesn’t even have to be a particularly good one, but even in-universe people would be asking about that.
I know it’s a meme but it’s more so incels and less the entire male population
- an avg male with lots of avg male friends none of which give a flying fuck about the joker
There’s way way way better and more interesting, more nuanced antiheros out there than the fucking joker too
And well the joker isn’t an “anti-hero” he’s a straight up psychopath
I’m more of an Avast male myself
Yeah, I dunno about that. “Anti-hero” is a pretty big trope, not at all limited to mentally ill characters.
Its a big list, but most have at least severe, untreated PTSD.
Punisher comes to mind, Venom as well. Wolverine fits here, along with his memory loss issues.
Dude’s rock did what?
Since when did joker become an anti hero? He’s the chaotic evil to Batman’s chaotic good.
I thought Batman was just lawful. He serves the interests of the rich and works with the cops.
Beating the absolute shit out of people isn’t lawful.
Sure it is! He’s deputized by the GCPD. And it’s part of his personal code.
I always took anti hero to mean bad protagonist. Like in any normal story they’re almost definitely the villain, but the story follows them as the main character so we see the world through their eyes.
With this in mind i guess joker became anti hero when he got his own movie
The “joker” trope from batman is very USA centered too, we don’t have that very much in Europe, or so I feel.
Edit I not U
Squats and Laughs in Eastern European.
It’s true, pierrots rarely become super villains.
Yeah, no.
Leave me out of this
You just offended my entire gender.
But yes, that’s true and it’s bad that about half are fucking idiots.
