• JackBinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    30 days ago

    Wife used to be a teacher. Key word USED to.

    Had a student who regularly threatened to kill her and destroyed her classroom at least twice a week. She would have to clear all the students into the hall while he went on a rampage in there.

    The AP would just come down and give him video games to “calm him down”. Guess who learned to freak out for rewards?

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      “it is very unfortunate that our Jaeydighn used the calming banana as a weapon but we believe it’s important for him to express himself freely and from now on we will peel it in an effort to make the impact softer for everyone involved.”

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    People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

    Or, y’know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That’s more common in the US.

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            By fucking the economy so hard they most people live paycheck to paycheck, no savings, and since there’s no universal healthcare people need to pay therapy from money they don’t have.

            This is by design, keep the poor poor so they don’t learn enough and get enough resources to change things. Things like fair pay and healthcare cost a lot to industries that pay lobbyists.

            If the current status is costing the government more than universal healthcare, who is pocketing the difference? Hospitals, insurance companies.

            Yeah, “they choose that”. “They” being the industries that pay lobbyists to make sure that “that” keeps happening, and “that” being US citizens not being able to afford therapy, in between other things.

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    On top of all of this, at least in my country, the pay is shit. And no government past or present seems interested in changing it so…

    Always the same story on loop.
    “Nobody wants to work anymore” - Because the pay is shit.
    “We’re struggling to fill positions” - Because the pay is shit.
    "This generation is laz— The. Pay. Is. Shit.

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      I was getting paid more than my teacher friends working in the office being a entry-level data entry person. It sucks how we undervalue teachers.

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    If you need a calming banana to not punch people not mistreating you in the face you are a garbage person

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        This “child” could be 7 or 17, which makes a huge difference regarding the appropriateness of their response. We need more context.

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        Nah, even as a child that’s unacceptable. My kid is only 5 and I don’t let them hit people, and punish them when they do. The response from the parent shows the apple fell straight down

        Edit: if you think this is advocating violence against children, go touch grass or read a single book on parenting ffs. Natural/logical consequences make good punishments for misbehavior, and have gone a long way to helping my kid not act out (and are nonviolent, since that has to be spelled out)

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          I never said it was acceptable. Do you call you’re children garbage when they misbehave? Does their behavior improve after you tell your child that you think they’re garbage? I don’t let my children hit anyone either, I just don’t call them garbage if they do.

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            28 days ago

            Normal people don’t break the teachers glasses and punch them in the face. This is already major behavioral problems if your kids are school age and doing this.

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                25 days ago

                As someone who was a child and therefore interacted with thousands of other children in public school I can confirm some children are garbage. Do you not remember school? Were all of those people ok?

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                  I remember troubled kids that didn’t know how to handle what they where dealing with at home and internally. I don’t remember any garbage kids, no. The idea that a child was just born garbage is just cruel, I hope one day you can learn to forgive and let go of that hate inside.

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            28 days ago

            It IS normal to punish 5 year olds. You don’t have to use violence to punish them. 5 years old is enough to understand consequences.

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          Yeah, it’s unacceptable, but it’s also unacceptable to call a child a “garbage person” for acting like a child.

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            28 days ago

            I wouldn’t call a particular kid a garbage person to or around that kid in consideration for the effect it might have on that kid. Between you and me kids who do that are a fucked up mess who probably aren’t going to end well.

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            Regardless of the labelling, punching someone in the face is absolutely not “acting like a child”, it’s acting like a garbage person. That shit should not be tolerated or excused away to complain about labelling.

            And honestly, excusing away a kid battering their teacher as “acting like a child” is pretty goddamned unacceptable too.

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              My little brother threw a chair at his preschool teacher. This is absolutely shit kids do, that they need to be taught is unacceptable. You don’t teach kids to be better by writing them off as garbage humans, because they’re still learning.

              If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you’re a shitty parent.

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                28 days ago

                How old is your little brother and how is his life going? If its going well I’m pretty sure it involved some intensive parenting or counseling.

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                I’m always amazed at how little reading comprehension people have, or how they end up responding to things in their own head.

                1 - your example of your little brother acting like an asshole doesn’t mean it’s “shit that kids do”. This is “boys will be boys” shit, and that’s not acceptable. This is like saying your little brother throws rocks at moving cars or at animals and it’s just “shit kids do”. Misbehaving kids do it, and need to be taught better, but it is not normal kid behavior.

                2 - no one is saying they’re talking to the kid like that

                3 - part of teaching kids to be better people is showing them there are natural consequences for their actions, which guess what? That’s a form of punishment, and it isn’t violence.

                If you call your five year old garbage for acting out, you’re a shitty parent.

                I ask my kid what’s wrong and work with them to find a solution, and implement natural/logical (and because crayons are needed, non violent) consequences for their misbehavior. I may use choice descriptors for their behavior when they are not in the house, but I would never speak to my kid that way.


                It baffles me how many people in this thread don’t have a concept of natural/logical consequences as punishment, and it really fucking shows in the responses. But I guess when you’re raised with violence and can’t be bothered to look into alternatives, it’s easy to assume and drag people on the Internet

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                  It’s amazing that you complain about people not reading and responding to stuff in their head, then you turn around it do it yourself.

                  1: I quite clearly stated that this was inappropriate behavior that needs to be educated away. I don’t know how you think my example is condoning the action. Children need to be taught to keep their hands to themselves, this is a normal part of child development. It is normal for children to have Big Emotions and not know how to use their words yet. Normal doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be addressed, it just means that every child has to have it addressed.

                  2: Have you not read the rest of the thread? Starting with the post calling the child a garbage person?

                  3: I never said anything to the contrary?

                  but I would never speak to my kid that way.

                  Then why are you defending it so hard?

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                You can call a kid being a garbage person a garbage person. Doesn’t mean you won’t help them and correct the behavior.

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                If you call your five year old garbage

                It’s not enough to call them names. You gotta punish them! Didn’t you see the other comments? \s

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                Sure, why not. Because all punishment is the job of the state, and no parent has the capability to punish their kid without violence, clearly.

                /S for those who can’t realize punishment and violence are not synonymous

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    30 days ago

    Punch a teacher in the face, get a free banana. Sounds like a great deal for the kid. Maybe if he shoots his teacher he’ll get a “calming Nintendo”.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    This isn’t even that bad.

    The reason bullies get away with being bullies at school is cause their parents also tend to be bullies. So when the little shit gets in trouble for being a bully, his fat parents will waddle in and bully the stuff and faculty for daring to discipline their little skid mark. Faculty don’t wanna deal with this, so they let the little shits get away with everything and only punishing the kids who fight back

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    30 days ago

    "Ah yes, the ancient cure for physical assault: potassium. I’m sure the glasses will magically fix themselves once he finishes his ‘Superpower’ fruit. 🍌👓

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    As student services this year: two broken pairs of glasses, one broken finger, laceration to my face from flying objects, sexual assault (breast bitten, fingers rammed into my junk) among the more memorable. I spent the holidays limping from being knocked into a wall. A typical day includes being hit with items, punched, and kicked. I barely notice being physically assaulted or death threats. The SA was mainly notable because it became a dcf call. To be clear, the teacher or peer is the first target and the onus is often on them to protect the peer so they get the worst of it while being paid less.

    I wish them all the best, my last day is very soon.

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    30 days ago

    Dear Parent,

    In an effort to break the routine of unacceptable parenting, I would like to demonstrate what you can do with banans. First, get a large bunch of preferrably green bananas. Remove two of these bananas from the bunch. Take one banana, and insert the stem rigorously into your right ear canal. Repeat with the other banana in your left ear canal. Do not remove the banana until they begin to wither.

    And thats it!

    The effort to reduce your child’s violent outbursts remains the same, but at least you will be able to share your Superpower of Narrow Intelligence with the public! Everyone will unequivocally know that you are a moron.

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    Dude school kids were awful when I was one and couldn’t understand why they couldn’t think logically. I cant imagine how bad it is now after decades of brainrot and phones in schools. I would NEVER be a teacher.