• Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Saying that is about as stupid and uninformed as it gets.

    Please, seriously please, look into actual nazi policies and ask yourself if those policies fit the claim.

    Please look at the actions of the nazis. E.g. the Night of the long knives. Or ask if the systematic murders of disabled people, would be something that fits with social Democrats values.

    Every historian with a focus on nazi germany disagrees with you.

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        Social Democracy is not the same as democratic socialism. (E.g. germany understands itself as a social democracy but don’t do socialism nor democratic socialism)

        The nazi murdered democratic socialists though.

        Could you define fascism and socialism, please? For the sake of the argument, as you seem confused over social democracy and democratic socialism.

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          Why not give your definitions? Why not define liberalism since it’s the topic at hand?

          This kind of definitionalism obscures the obvious reality that liberals and nazis collaborated for a long time. Perhaps always.

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            Nope.

            Democratic socialism is socialism. So the idea that workers should own the mean of production. But it is Democratic. So the government should be Democratic.

            Social democracy is capitalism. But that it should be Democratic and soften the weakness of capitalism by providing social programs.

            You see, 1 is capitalism, the other is socialism.

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              workers owning means of production is inherently democratic, you dont need an additional democratic label for that.

              Both of them are capitalism

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                Socialism is not the same as democratic.

                Socialism describe how Property right should work.

                Democratic describe how the government works.

                Both are independent Ideologies.

                Socialism is not capitalism and to claim that is ridiculous.

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                  any examples of what is a democratic socialism and what is a social democracy in real life

                  It would be easier to draw distinction

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                    The distinction is between socialism and capitalism.

                    There are no democratic socialist countries.

                    Germany is a social democracy.