The funny part is steam has the most exclusives of em all.
It also has integrated microphone and you can also talk to your friends while playing 🤣
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If you’re not being sarcastic, check out “Desk Job” on Steam. It’s a free small game which shows all SD functionality.
I’ve not tested it myself, but others have said it’s best to wear headphones otherwise there will be some echo for the voice chat.
And steam chat doesn’t require a subscription
Of course, and even if they do you could always switch to any other chat software because you’re literally playing on PC.
Proof (as if it was needed) that just running a reasonable storefront generates more than enough profit.
Not allowing strangers to talk to my kid is absolutely a Switch selling point.
And gamecube games… and wii games and n64 games and ps2 games…
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10 year old mario kart 8 is like 70 bucks or somethingwith dlc. They have lost their mind and people still pay for it.
Why would people want to buy fun games and support their development? Are they crazy?
Something interesting is that Steam users, (myself included) will ignore a game not on sale, I couldn’t tell you why. The only thing I can think of is that we are so used to things being “on sale” we forget that there was a reason it was priced at that amount in the first place.
$60
$70looks better than $60Factorio is an interesting example, its never on sale. It’s just the price. In fact it keeps going up in price.
I couldn’t tell you why.
Because steam always has a plethora of amazing games on sale. You could never buy a full price game and still never run out of awesome things to play. And even if there is a particular game you want, it’ll almost certainly be on sale within a few months. I’d have to double check, but I don’t think I’ve paid more than 40 bucks for any single game in years.
The Steam Deck can run Biebian and Hannah Montana Linux fairly easily. That’s not really a selling point just another thing Nintendo isn’t bringing to the table.
I impulse bought a deluxe Need for Speed game a few weeks ago for $6.50. I’ve already played it 65 hours. I don’t want to jump into the math of it but I reckon I would need to enjoy Mario Kart for much greater than 650 hours before I would get the same hours per dollar value NfS: Heat has brought me thanks to a Steam sale. And Mario Kart could never catch up in miles per hour.
Just a heads up you’ll get to learn how to navigate Linux if you change your mind on the starter car. The only way I could start a new save file was by manually deleting the old one in the file system. It was a little frustrating but served as a good reminder that it is a handheld computer not just an outlet for gaming.
The steam deck is awesome. I love my little handheld computer.
You could even buy something like an ROG Ally for a similar price and still get a bit more performance
Not a Nintendo fanboy. But their own IP games are truly fun. That alone is enough incentive to buy the switch
To emulate* on my desktop 😌
This.
Yeah, this is the only reason I have a Switch. I’m a sucker for their first party games, and I will probably buy a Switch 2 for Mario Odyssey 2 alone.
I don’t know what Nintendo was thinking by doing the Nintendo tax bullshit harder than ever during a time when Americans are facing such heavy financial burdens
These tariffs suck for sure, but America is not the center of the world : the pricing of these games is insane and looks like a poor marketing decision globally
I’m aware, but it’s worth noting since America is usually a big consumer country, and right now, we can’t onsume.
Most likely they came up with the plan while people thought Trump was not going to do the crazy stuff he kept talking about…
To still go through with it and have Doug Bowser give this “Do you guys not have phones?” level bullshit defense?
It seems these idiots do not have the emotional intelligence we try to enforce in toddlers to recognize when a mistake was done, make apologies and rectify… instead they quadruple down and keep pushing as if their idea is now even more genius than before.
This is how we end up with Trump literally destroying the US economy while people wonder “is it outrageous stupidity or intergalactic 17 dimensional chess?”
We have never (to my knowledge) lived in a real life, non analogy, of the Emperor has no clothes
The Switch has the Switch tax. The Switch 2 will have the Switch 2 TARIFF.
You can also install a Switch emulator and just keep it even if Nintendo cease&decists again.
Sadly the trend of $80 for a digital copy of games will be copied by every major AAA studio in the following years if Nintendo succeed. The switch 1 games are not pricer than others at launch, they just never for whatever fucking reason become cheaper.
And then AAA studios will see their games stay on digital shelves indefinitely and pirating skyrocket and they’ll learn that they’re not nintendo and trying to be will bankrupt them.
GTA6: Hold my beer.
I’m really interested in the reaction now that Nintendo has popped the seal, because I think GTA6 even if it launches a buggy mess, ive seen people say they would pay $100 for it.
You don’t live in Australia do you
All our games cost $100AUD even on steam
Have we really not grown out of this “console war” bullshit mentality?
I agree, that’s why I choose the Steam Deck, not a console, it’s a linux computer in the form of a handheld.
People can compare products you know.
That’s because 90% of steam games are trash.
This statement manages to be sorta true while also missing that there’s more great games on steam than the entire, mature Switch 1 library.
Right. “10% of a million versus 50% of a thousand” type situation. Plus, Steam’s pretty good at promoting the better games, even the obscure ones.
I dont think you’re wrong but Luckily Steam has a decent algorithm for making sure the best games rise to the top of your store page based on your similar games played/wishlisted.
They have that I agree. The steam deck is at least $300 more than the switch 2 where I live so to me the comparison isn’t fair.
Edit: i just went online and $110 for a dock is insane, I don’t know why steam doesn’t get called out for that. The steam deck i want is already $800+ tax
That 10% that’s good is still a larger library than you could ever reasonably expect to play, even if you don’t have a job. But I also think there’s a massive amount of games that could be good and just no one’s played them.
This is a crazy generalization.
Kinda the point of my comment, nobody sees the irony. I just went on steam and there are games that are $120+. All these companies have varying games and prices.i just want people to remember that Steam is a corporation and Gabe is a billionaire. Don’t let them pull the same shit musk did, stop worshipping corporations and billionaires and posting memes to start some sort of brand corporate team war
Personally I don’t ever advocate for billionaires but I’ve been using steam for a long time and they have very consumer friendly return policies. Would I like them to take less of a cut from the devs and clamp down on micro transaction bullshit? Absolutely. Are they actively trying to fuck my like most big corps? I don’t really think so.
With switch you can real own a game, with steam you only have a license.
not with switch 2 though, the cartridges are only keys for the digital download as far as I’ve heard
I thin this is mostly for games like Elden Ring and Cyberpunk 2077, which are too big to actually fit on a cartridge.
CDPR already released a statement that CP2077 will be released on a 64GB cart. Safe to assume the whole base game will be physical which is a plus.
This is misinformation, cartridges with Key will replace only gift cards
Right up until nintendo turns the switch 2 store off.
3ds store are of, and I buyed a game last month
Plus, steam dont will last forever
First-party games are still fully on the cart and the Game-Key Cards are a cheap option for third parties, for now…
I personally don’t trust Nintendo to not try this on their first-party titles at some point though.
At least the game key cards are still transferable and not tied to any one account or device
Nah, Japan and Nintendo particularly has a big culture around physical ownership. That’s why they were so behind on an online store and why the current one is also bad - they don’t put an emphasis on it.
Even the game key cards are novel - it’s technically a way to sell digital copies of games via physical hardware, which no other company has ever done (I don’t think there’s any other big companies that offer you seem digital copies at all actually) - at least, while servers are around. You can even let friends borrow them.
Not with the Switch 2 bringing back dongle DRM and applying it to downloaded games ala the Game-Key Card.
You could use other game stores
GOG and itch is the only I know, but is a little dificult get them on steam deck
rather give money to a Japanese company than an american one
I’d rather give money to the company with the more consumer-friendly device.
I don’t care about the origin of a company as much as I do about whether or not they engaging anti-consumer practices.
Valve is based in New Zealand isn’t it?
No, Bellevue, Washington.
Japanese corporations are known for being unethical too to completely fair.
Correction: Black Companies in Japan are unethical
Black companies being the term for what you and I know as evil companies like amazon for example
This is like me saying
“European corporations are known for being unethical too to completely fair.” (Was going to use america in this example but that countries gone down the shitter) because some employers are unethical.
I hate how people online have some sort of hate boner for Japan where they take some small issue and say the entirety of Japan is like that.
I couldn’t really find the right wording. That was my bad.
(Pssst! My friend! >!“to be”!!<)
My sole motivation for ever buying a Nintendo product would be for Pokémon.
I’m not saying you should stop, but I am saying people like you are the reason pokemon is so bad these days.
Seriously, a real fan needs to have standards, otherwise you’re just a simp. Scarlet and Violet should have been the final straw - though sword and shield should have been better too…
I am still not going to buy one. Just that it’s the only reason I can think to get one
Me too except that they’ve already indicated pretty much to everyone that they’re not going to in any way innovate on the idea.
Steam has this crazy concept where as a game gets older, you don’t have to pay as much for it as when it was new! Pretty wild, I know.
My experience is that games on Steam are still far more expensive than their pendants for PS4 or similar on ebay (new).
I think it depends on the developer sometimes, for example when Microsoft announced they were going to delist Forza Horizon 4 (June of last year) they put it on sale multiple times at 80% until it was delisted on December 16
Sometimes you don’t even have to pay for games. 😇
Lemmy instance checks out
Innuendo aside, Steam has some awesome F2P titles
And discounts, including $0 ones.
Hell yeah it does!
It’s not Valve that makes the decision, check how many times Factorio was on sale.
I respect their integrity.
Yep. In the case of Factorio, for now at least, it’s evergreen. It’s priced cheaper than it probably could be honestly and it’ll only get better. Likely anyone not interested with the current price tag isn’t interested at all. Not going on sale means you never feel the need to wait for a sale. You just buy it when you want to.
Even though I bought the expansion and haven’t even played a single second of it yet (factorio burn out is real). It’s still the cheapest game I’ve ever legally acquired in terms of £/s
You never played a free game even for a second?
I never agree with the $/time metric being used, but it is the easiest. I prefer (enjoyment/time)/$. If a game drags itself out just to keep me playing, I don’t value that.
With that said, Factorio is great for this too. Even with the current price (which is not the price I paid), it’s an amazing value. Once you consider the mods that are available, it’s easily worth the price.
I find it absolutely hillarious that you measure it per second lmao
Same thing with RimWorld. They only go down like 10% because they want players who want the game for what it is, not just a cheap bargain. I respect it. A lot of love put into that game.
I wonder when the next Rimworld expansion is coming, presumably not too far off by now? Curious to see what new warcrimes it adds.
GOG is cheaper. Steam does have more franchise deals though.
GOG is also DRM-free and lets you download the game installer as a backup, even if they’ve been pushing hard for their GOG Galaxy clients as of lately.
Sadly GOG isn’t even close to as good as Steam for Linux support.
True. But for the most part I game on a Windows box. Most games don’t have Linux support and I don’t want to bother trying to run things through Wine. I have 2 seperate comps for Linux and Windows. I pretty much use my Windows computer for for gaming and blender because it has the better graphics card and processor.
Indeed, it’s not their main goal either. Unfortunately tools like Lutris, while doing awesome work, are utterly overwhelmed by both the influx of people as well as the amount of games. And while most GOG games work with the auto-generated installers, many do not and require custom installers that are often unmaintained and quickly become outdated.
Gog stopped their own linux launcher and instead unofficially partnered up with heroic (heroic got their own affiliate link). Until now it works pretty well.
Gog stopped their own linux launcher and instead unofficially partnered
Stop spreading this nonsense.
Heroic added affiliated links to their software that anyone can apply for (without notifying the users at first).
I have been using the Heroic launcher a ton on my Steam Deck, it is great!
I am not sure if you replied to the wrong thread, good for you that it works for your needs, but
My point is that GOG did not drop Linux support and instead partnered with another company. Not about the quality of the software.
- Gog waning Linux support is completely unrelated to Heroic
- Gog did not seek partnership
- Heroic devs just applied to a program that anyone can apply to.
That said, it is shady to inject links and not notify it on the release note or change log. I think there was a message on their mastodon at some point, and the implementation crashed for some people with more restrictive firewall on their network, there were some discussions on the issues page of their code repository.
Escept for red dead redemption. RDR2 is actually cheaper for some reason
steam voice chat
PC exclusive games
Get every GameCube game for free instantly by pirating them
Well not instantly because you have to wait for your torrent client to download it
GameCube, Wii… Even switch if you can find an emulator fork that still works
Switch emulators are still just as easy to find as they always were. Most people include them with the game.
Don’t forget Wii U! Oh, right, they ported everything worthwhile to the Switch.
something sonething those people who want wwhd/tphd
What Would Hellspawn Do?
Tony Pawk’s Pro Dater?
Tony Pawk’s Pro Dater?
Sounds like a parody porn game
For people who didn’t get it: he’s talking about Zelda Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD.
If this is what I think it is (The second touch screen)
There is a youtuber working on that in android.
Two notable exceptions!
Yoshi’s Wooly World
So cutee
True, it got a 3DS port, but not Switch!
Sidebar in my community has links for the surviving Switch emu forks, but I haven’t tried installing them on Linux/Deck yet.
Assume it’s going to be far more manual than a Flatpak or whatever for the time being :S
It literally is just install a flatpak, then configure the control scheme in the emu, maybe tweak some settings, add it to your steam library, map the steam controls to the emu controls in game mode.
EmuDeck/RetroDeck automate most of this or you can just find the individual emus in the Discover software center.
… They might actually perform better if you compiled the entire thing from source on your Deck, which is possible to do, but is significantly more of a hassle, gotta set up a root pw, turn off read only mode, hope you can actually find all the sources for the dependencies, know how to tune/tweak the compile parameters to optimally use the Deck’s hardware…
Ive gotten Ryujinx working via flatpak… but uh… lets just say I’d have to delve into OCing/PowerToolsing my Deck to get it to actually run many Switch/WiiU games at a playable framerate.
It works, its stable software wise… but the Deck isn’t quite powerful enough.
… Also, it could be that most modern emus are designed to map consoles onto traditional PC architecture, and ironically the Deck uses an APU which is closer to many consoles, so it doesn’t actually perform as well as it could with better support.
How does 3DS run? I have a hacked Switch so can just run Switch games on that, but 3DS is beyond the Switch’s capabilities.
So, I have literally never used a 3ds emulator before, ever.
EmuDeck set up Azahar in a few minutes, a few minutes more for me to find an OoT rom, a few minutes more to dl it…
…a few minutes more to figure out that the EmuDeck parser thing either isn’t working at finding 3ds files … or I am a moron and you just install the .cia (what a file extension name) into the Emu, in Desktop mode.
Add the Azahar emulator itself into steam library via EmuDeck which launches Steam Rom Manager…
Back out into game mode, launch Azahar, launch OoT, and yep, it works, also wow I forgot the 3ds has two screens, Azahar’s default render screen sectioning for this is weird, but it works!
Turn on performance overlay, looks like I’m getting a solid 60 fps, rendering the main game screen at double the DS’s native resolution.
Start a new save file, go through the intro sequence, run around in my treehouse room a bit…
All works, save for a few instances of the audio playing… a bit too fast, or too slow, for maybe a split second, in a few parts of the Navi flying really fast intro sequence.
… So… seems to work just fine, basically?
Probably I could tinker with Azahar’s settings a bit to see if I can iron out the mild audio quirks, but I’d say thats pretty good for a total elapsed time of about 30 minutes, and me having literally zero experience with 3ds emus, much less on a Deck.
EmuDeck handled making up the control scheme layout in Game Mode, which worked fine in game, automatically, I just had to deal with some mild awkwardness of double clicking on OoT with the trackpad to launch it.
Thanks for trying it out! Sounds like it’ll require tinkering to get games running smoothly. About what I’d expect!
It might be worth noting that I was running Azahar through Vulkan… which … I think is currently listed as an ‘experimental’ level of support by Azahar’s website.
It recommends OpenGL for better support and stability.
I ran around more in Kokiri Village, no more audio spikes. I think its just due to how certain cutscenes quick load scene transitions.
Also, I completely didn’t expect this to just work, but it does:
The secondary screen, that’s touch sensitive on a 3ds?
Well the Deck’s screen is touch sensitive as well.
Worked just fine to navigate through the map and item menus and what not, just poking the Deck’s screen itself.
I’m just referring to possibly outdated package repos which may not have kept up with the forks and all the drama, but I could be easily wrong with outdated info. I haven’t touched my steam deck in a couple months :p
EmuDeck isn’t letting you auto install Yuzu anymore…
But it does install Ryujinx for you.
But it doesn’t provide BIOS or prod/title keys, gotta find those on your own.
There’s also Citron, but EmuDeck just lets you know it exists and won’t auto dl it.
Ryujinx has a flatpak (though its a fork) in the base Discover store on a Deck running SteamOS, so its just on mainline flathub.
Yuzu and Citron appear to no longer be on flathub.
Thank you for your service o7
I’m sold
