I will if they will
Reminder: the right broadly doesn’t care about ideological inconsistency or hypocrisy, pointing it out does nothing because they don’t have mental tools for making comparisons in three dimensions.
Maybe as individuals you can use these tools to make them feel something, but you would have to be one-on-one and able to socialize and talk to another person and make eye contact and I am not holding out hope for our rising generation of young “activists” who have been raised with no tools for any of this and think social anxiety is their identity.
What’s the chicken and egg between terminally online and social anxiety, or is one just enabling the other constantly
They’re absolutely self-reinforcing, and not just “self” reinforcing because there’s also outside reinforcement, in everything from capitalistic endeavors to normalize paying for a cab for your burrito, to online influencers and personalities getting shoved algorithmically in your face who also validate and justify avoidant behavior, reinforcing how you’re a victim of forces outside your control, how being introverted and socially repressed actually makes you “better” than most people and all these other tropes that I get a lot of hate for pointing out in places like Lemmy… from the same people who spend half their day in discord channels with pseudo friends complaining how lonely, unhappy and anxious they are to other people who don’t care about each other and are just there for validation as well.
Shit’s bad out there yo.
Yeah it’s wild, I’ve had to learn that just because something seems exceptionally obvious to me doesn’t mean it’s at all obvious to others. There’s a lot of pressure to stay in these environments and it takes a LOT of self awareness to pull yourself out of it, if you can even detect that you are in fact in a situation that’s only making it worse. Like any addiction, it takes time, and it takes enough misery for you to take action. Hopefully by that point you haven’t etched a bunch of online nonsense on some bullets and murdered someone and instead went and touched some grass.
Very based reply, I wish everyone saw the nuance, danger and difficulty of seeking what your brain tells you it wants or even just thought about it a little more.
My partner got a little plaque for her desk that says “don’t believe everything you think”, and I felt like that was a succinct way to put it
Very well said. I could talk at great length the dangers of misjudging how one’s own brain works.
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Tate was born in the US and later lived in the UK. So I suggest we split the difference… and dump him in the middle of the Atlantic.
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Don’t forget deporting Musk back to South Africa while you are at it.
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The MAGA goalposts must be motorised, they move so often and so far.
Motorized with a turbo and supercharger…
The best part is after they all realize Kirk’s assassin was a right-winger just like them. That’s the real payoff.
I now spent close to an hour trying to figure out Robinson’s political leanings, and as of right now the internet simply does not know.
This is the closest:
A public records database shows Robinson’s family resides in Washington, Utah, where Trump garnered support from 75% of voters in the 2024 presidential election. Robinson’s parents have Republican listed as their party affiliation, said public voter registration information, and they are considered active voters (each cast ballots in the 2024 election that gave Trump a second presidency).
Public records also indicated Robinson registered as a voter in Utah in July 2021 but was considered inactive and did not declare an affiliation to any party when he registered.
And then there’s a lot of talk about bullet engravings which leave me very confused.
How can you engrave “If you’re reading this you’re gay” - 26 characters onto a single bullet? (edit: no more about this please)Even so, the messaging is open to interpretation. We simply do not know yet, and we might never know 100%! He’s conflicted, that much seems clear.IMHO most timely and objective article as of right now: LA Times
The simple fact that we don’t know, in addition to the things we do know about him and his family, is enough to convince me.
If he leaned left at all, they would have 100% already released that by now.
He used really big bullets. Like, basically the biggest widely available. I thought the same thing at first too.
It was .30-06
That makes sense. And the messages were written on the casings, but those are left behind when you shoot, right (sorry I know very little about guns)? So it’s not really intended for the victim but for whoever finds them, and the idea is to not pick them up when you’re done?
As I said, I find all this confusing, unclear, and rather wait another day or so before I make up my mind.
PS: All I know is a Tom Waits song about thirty-ought-six.
The shooter used Mauser 98 bolt-action rifle chambered in .30-06 (“thirty-aught-six”). The Mauser 98 is a bolt action rifle; a form of single action, meaning the firearm needs to be recocked before fired again, similar to a old revolver or a Nerf blaster. Since only one shot was fired, no casings actually left the firearm. The spent casing from the fired shot never left the chamber, as it would not be extracted until recocked.
Right, on the casing, which is left behind after shooting. And didn’t he only fire one shot? So the entire round was left behind for all but one of them.
So is it fair to say that most of the 26 character message was on the shell casing, rather than the bullet itself?
I’m pretty sure 100% of it was on the casing
Easily. That’s almost 3 inches of casing, and if you run out of room, you can write a second line.
30-06 is a large hunting round. It has roughly a 75% larger surface area on the cartridge (the casing, not including the projectile) than a round of 5.56; the standard NATO round,. This is also almost 250% more surface area than 9mm, which the United Healthcare shooter was able to fit 7 characters on with “dispose”, therefore it can reasonably be assumed that you can fit 17 or more characters, which could handily fit “if u read this u r gay”.
All the bullets where engraved with anti fascist stuff, memes, and funny shit. I wouldn’t say in context that it gave even any indication of being pro lbtq except I guess maybe the teasing about stares at bulges. Not really pro trans so much as griefing a person obsessed with wanting to know what’s in other people’s pants.
The bullet engraving does sound weird, but I have heard of traditions where people engrave names onto dry grains of rice.
So… how many do you think aren’t going to believe that?
“The Demonrats installed him!”
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Ultra nationalist family of white Christians from Utah? Dad was a cop and Grandma says their ain’t no Demonrats in sight. Kid dressed at the Groyper pepe meme and Donald Trump, has many pictures in MAGA gear and recently expressed his frustration with Charlie Kirk, who also has a well documented “Groyper War” conflict. Bullet casings were inscribed with “gamer” phrases.
It’s very possible to have politics that differ from your family. It’s also possible for politics to change over the course of years. I think he used to be MAGA, but shifted over to the left within the last few years.
Groypers and the alt-right generally co-opt existing symbols to define themselves, making it quite difficult to definitively determine who’s part of the group. They love plausible deniability.
Nothing enscribed on the bullets is definitive proof. A lot of the links to groypers are tenuous at best.
I don’t think we’ll be sure of the motive until he tells us, but at this point, I think he was most likely on the left.
You’re not wrong and he may not be a Groyper exactly, but I still believe he’s adjacent. I don’t believe that having a Trans partner excludes him either. We’ll have to wait and see. His politics may not be as black and white as any of us thought. Being raised in an ultra Christian, probably ultra conservative household and community, fucks people up. Repression, shame, and guilt are powerful tools religion wields as a cudgel.
I grew up in a similar situation, albeit not as strict a Christian or as conservative a community, but damn close. I’ve seen first hand how folks like these can fuck a kid up beyond repair. The jury is still out, but I still believe he’s a right-winger.
I guess “essentially” was doing a lot of heavy lifting in their comment lol
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I’ll chop your genitals off and feed them to your mother
Is what this deleted comment said, btw
Do you have sources to support that? Genuinely curious because I can’t find any sources on his political views, other than people’s comments on here…
No source, but it’s the only thing that makes sense. I’m not an expert, but I’ve been terminally online for over 20 years. I’m all too familiar with the alt-right and their way of doing things.
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I’m terminally ill with a case of intact jugular. They said I might die in 40-50 years.
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Why would I do the hard part for you?
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“We like to fuck around, but we certainly don’t want to find out. You know, just like the guy we elected President.”
Well yeah, “finding out” runs the risk of them learning something. Knowledge and facts are poison to a MAGA, that’s why they spew bile out their mouths whenever they’re exposed to it.
Why didn’t they send the National Guard to Utah?
Not enough Democratic voters to intimidate I would assume
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Can we just call them cowards already?
We do, quite frequently.
It’s a synonym.
And let’s not go to Chicago. It’s a silly place.
They’re going to Memphis now, the red voters are gonna find out what it’s like to live under fascism
Memphis is blue dude. This is punishing the uppity folks who aren’t bowing down to maga
They’re going to Memphis now, the red voters are gonna find out what it’s like to live under fascism
