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    The comments are teaching me I grew up poor and still eat poor.

    I mean I knew the second part. But those damn canned mixed veggies were disgusting.

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    Wtf are you guys eating over there… Jesus christ, I wonder why Americans seem so crazy. Artificial food, artificial media, Artificial work culture…

    And two weeks vacation, maybe, on a full year of work… What? And still no money in the wallet at the end of the day?

    I watched a video last night about an American guy that was just losing it, and rightly so:

    https://youtu.be/awKjusa-JFQ

    Watch five minutes of that and be happy if you are European, I guess.

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      I get 40 hours of sick time off per year that I can use for vacation. This is the New York State minimum that had to be fought for.

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      Two weeks? If you’re middle to upper middle class, sure. If you’re lower middle to lower class, you’ll get a week, if anything at all, unpaid. Sick? Unpaid. Spouse died? Unpaid. What, give people welfare? Not on my tax dollar, that’s communism!

      The US stopped being the land of opportunity two generations ago, and only now people are starting to realize.

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        “You can have the funeral in the alley behind the restaurant during lunch. Throw your wife in the dumpster after you’re done.”

        -Your manager

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      I mean, yeah…a lot of people here have it very rough. I am lucky in that I work for the federal government and get 10 weeks plus holidays off. A lot of people here do not get that.

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        I had that once, turned out the head of my department was a sociopath though. Never been unhappier at work in my life. I had managers that handled themselves better at a car wash than this lady did at a public library.

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      Highschool needs to teach financial literacy. $200 a month for insurance is insane. I pay that for 3 vehicles on full coverage (older trucks and suv, but damn).

      Not saying this guy is wrong to be pissed but I see a lot of people who just don’t understand how to shop around for shit and just eat the cost.

      I agree with him though, we need single payer and mass transit.

      Edit: also the further I get into this. The more I think we need to single payer so he can go to therapy, cause he’s depressed as hell.

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        Insurance rates change depending where you are and who you are. 250 a month per vehicle for full coverage where I am. We just dropped coverage to minimum on one of them and it went down barely 15%. Shopping around found only higher rates somehow. I think insurance agencies are colluding to fix prices.

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        How tf do you shop around for insurance.

        My employer: you have 3 options. The high deductible HSA plan, the medium deductible plan, or the low deductible plan.

        Even if there are other options that aren’t subsidized by my employer, you can’t change your plan most of the year because of fucking open enrollment.

        How is this user error and not America being America?

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          Car…car insurance, it’s why I called out we needing single payer healthcare. This video was a dude bitching about car insurance.

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            LOL guess I just proved Americans are illiterate cause I reread the comment and it clearly said car insurance

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        people who just don’t understand how to shop around for shit and just eat the cost.

        The problem is, you can shop around and find a good deal, but that good deal is “introductory”, only for new customers, so after a while the price goes back to “normal” and you have to do it all over again. Then you have to do that for every damn thing, it gets pretty tiring.

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      I tried reading the rest of the comments on this post but I think my soul broke, I wanted to reply to multiple of them but the words just didn’t come to me

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        I also feel deep sadness over it because its just so incredibly unfair and evil.

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      Pseudobulbar affect which could be caused by a psychotic break since they’re driving us fucking crazy.

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    Sorry, I’m European, could someone explain what Hamburger Helper actually is?? I’ve heard the brand name before and assumed it was just some kind of seasoning powder for making hamburgers, but this image looks more like it’s more like powdered sauce base for a whole range of random meals?

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          Yeah; you don’t put a hamburger into it, just ground beef (or chicken, or tuna, or whatever other meat you’d like, really). lol

          If you had money for a hamburger, you probably wouldn’t be eating Hamburger Helper.

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            Yeah, that makes sense. I can even imagine how it tastes now.

            Around here, people use spaghetti (and probably an egg to make it larger), what is probably not too different.

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              Adding eggs to random shit really does help it feel more filling. Like if I eat a packet a ramen I would never feel full, throw in a couple eggs and it’s fine. And I can’t afford to go to the doctor so it’s not like they can tell me my shit diet is killing me. I didn’t know what a frittata actually was until recently. We have chickens and I was trying to get rid of some eggs and my fiance found a frittata recipe online. It’s basically, whatever you’ve got throw in a vessel with eggs and bake it. Cut up peppers, onions, can of green beans, or corn, maybe some sausage or whatever you had left, add that other can you had sitting in the cupboard throw it in the oven and go sit down. It may not be considered a frittata at that point. What spices were added. Whatever the fuck sounded good at that moment. Probably some Tajin, why not.

              Why am I still typing, I don’t even know what I was talking about… Maybe I’m hungry

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      it’s the kit to make the meal in the front, just need to add the hamburger… or hot dogs…

      but yea it has the seasonings, maybe emulsifiers, the macaroni, and instructions, and that’s it

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        Thickeners too. Modified corn starch. Less objectional ingredient really since starch as a sauce thickener instead of reduction is pre industrial and modified starch is frankly a good innovation. I don’t want to sit there and stir. People who make pudding from scratch with regular corn starch are insane.

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        ooh, hamburger as in, ground meat? For me a hamburger is always the round puck of meat between buns, makes more sense if it’s just the generic name for the meat itself!

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    Protip: Hamburger Helper has always been the most expensive way to do this. Buy raw macaroni and one of those seasoning spice packs (e.g. taco mix) if you’re not good with measuring seasoning or have none at home. Take a photo of the Hamburger Helper directions (on the box) with your phone if you need something to go by.

    There are probably tons of such recipes online too.

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    …y’all didn’t grow up eating kraft mac n hot dogs cut up in it?

    o.o

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      Sorry, but this is like one of the many litmus tests for people who think they grew up in the middle class and then actually find out they grew up poorer than they initially thought.

      Another good one was having canned mixed vegetables more than a couple times a week.

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        You’re overlooking an important detail - kids love that cheap, shitty food. It was also quick and easy to make, so their tired, overworked parents were easily persuaded to make it.

        Naturally there’s a line where it becomes too much, but even rich kids love hot dogs and Mac & cheese.

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          I don’t think anyone loves eating canned mixed veggies… But I admit, every once in a while I’ll make a fancy version of Mac and cheese and hotdogs.

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            Again, kid logic. Plus, many young parents don’t know (or care) how to properly cook veggies anyway. It’s a choice between canned (and usually salted) veggies, or similarly mushy, over-microwaved fresh/frozen veggies with little seasoning or flavor. It’s not like the green beans are roasted with olive oil, garlic, and balsamic vinegar.

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            You could probably mix some frozen broccoli or a diced red onion in there. Its still pretty affordable. I know I do that some Kraft. I also sometimes mix in hotdogs or shredded chicken.

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            Cutting up pickles with boxed Mac. and Cheese was one of my favorite go-tos, in grad. school. If not pickles then I used to put canned tuna in; also quite good.

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        Grew up poor, didn’t know it. Lots of Mac 'n Cheese w/ hotdogs and canned vegetables. I remember the first time I had a fresh green bean, I was put off by the texture. Wasn’t used to vegetables with structure.

        Edit: also a fair amount of Hamburger Helper in my childhood. It’s OK.

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          Haha, I had a similar experience because of canned mix veggies. For a long time I didn’t think I liked beans because I always hated the texture of the canned lima beans. I also thought all veggies would taste the same because canned mix veggies all adopt an odd homogeneous taste.

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              If you cook them until they’re mush with plenty of oil/butter, a bit more salt than I’d like to admit, pepper, dill, and a few drops of hickory smoke flavor, they’re amazing.

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          Wasn’t used to vegetables with structure.

          Lol this just perfectly described my experience perfectly. I grew up eating mostly canned vegetables. When I started cooking as an adult, I didn’t think I liked vegetables. Until I followed recipes cooking with fresh veggies. The “structure” is totally different! And delicious.

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          oh god, i did most of the cooking at one point and hamburger helper was my entry to cooking. at like 12.

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        I really disagree with this. My parents grew up in the 50s and just thought this kind of highly processed food was normal and easy. There were also commercials that constantly reminded them to buy it. We could 100% afford better food, this is just what they wanted 🤢

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        It could still be very much middle class. Parents make it out of nostalgia from when they were kids, instead of making it out of necessity.

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          My grandma used to make depression era meals for my dad (they were also poor), my dad made them for me (not as poor then solidly middle income), and I would love to eat them for nostalgia reasons. Can’t because of gluten, but I’ve been trying out various gluten free bread recipes to see if I can get something that works.

          A reeeeeaaallly long way of agreeing and saying yeah, nostalgia plays a role.

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          Mac and cheese and hot dogs are probably less reliable than the canned mixed veggies. I don’t think anyone gets nostalgia for soaked mushie veggies .

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        I figured it out we were poor once I hit middle school, and me asking about this and further realizing the truth of it… well of course that sent Republican dad further into an insecurity/rage/alcoholism loop.

        Being honest would have been too difficult, I guess.

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        Middle class isnt a clear cut distinction anyway. It mostly serves to divide those of us who live off of labour rather than ownership so we go after one another instead of the capitalists.

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        I mean, maybe, but in my case I’m sure a good part of it was neither of my parents were good cooks lol

        If I didn’t watch them make it, it was pretty hard to tell if the veggies were canned or not; they boiled fresh veggies to the same consistency as the canned ones.

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        No way we did that too! I still do it every once in awhile, not because it’s that good but fit the nostalgia

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          That’s what we had tonight! Well, I had sliced turkey because it needed eating and my partner had canned chicken. I rather like Mac and cheese with peas.

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    Don’t use Hamburger Helper, switch to the store brand Lasgana Skillet Meal. It will taste much better. The people who make Hamburger Helper have seriously cheaped out on their ingredients in the last several years, speaking as a childhood fan.