How to legally discriminate against anyone above the age of 40?
Or under the age of 25. Nobody is voluntarily signing up for Instagram in the modern era. Hell, even TikTok is getting past its prime.
They might as well be demanding my Spotify Playlist.
Where are the kids then? Roblox?
See, THIS is what modern technology was supposed to bring.
It’s so hard to organise a hangout with friends. Nobody knows when they’re available because they don’t have a proper calendar. Everyone just lives their life one day at a time, having no clue if they’ll be free next Tuesday for a pint or two. It’s so annoying.
The moment you start using a semi-public calendar, things become so much easier. People don’t need to see your events, just free/busy blocks. And when you want to organise something for a dozen people, that level of knowledge, combined with some AI (ain’t nobody got time to find a free time slot that’s good for everyone!), sorts these things out so quickly.
Sure, some 30% still won’t turn up but at least it’s not an endless “X can’t make it next Tuesday, next Thursday would be good except Y and Z are out of town, etc etc”. I have your emails, I have your availability calendars, let’s make it happen. Boom. Pub time scheduled in 5 minutes.
This doesn’t need AI. Traditional algorithms can do this.
True, I was thinking one step further with AI negotiating with your friends’ AI to find the right spot, with minimal prompting to the users, kinda like the automated call screening systems you have on modern phones.
Yeah, that’s the eventual industry goal with “agentic AI”. Still, absurd waste of power, water, and arable land in the end; especially since the big wigs aren’t even really doing much that’s innovative to reduce the draw to any of those. Hell, they’ll build a data center in one of the world’s hottest deserts on faith they can tap an aquifer. Wild really.
Move to Germany lol, everybody has a calendar. Downside is that you have to schedule meetups long in advance because everybody (at least adults) plan like at least a week, some like a month, ahead and we aren’t very flexible
Then, an idea struck: He sent the girl a calendar invite titled “Hook up?” for the following Friday night at 11:30 p.m.
That’s brilliant.
If you’re under 16 or over 40[pedo].
Discord might be the spot where all the cool kids hang out. Idk anymore, tbh.
There are plenty of 40+ non-pedo communities on Discord. You’ve got music production gear and synth communities like Dirtywave, Polyend, and Deluge, TTRPGs, software devs in general, and much more. Discord is also good for LFG, which is indispensable for any middle aged gamer who is too busy to have a regular gaming schedule and gaming crew.
Are you sure? This guy seems pretty sure everybody that uses the current most popular western online community building chat platform is a sex offender if they’re over an arbitrary age. Surely they must be right!
I’m on the Discord community for my metropolitan city along with many thousands of people from all walks of life and all sorts of ages, I need to head over there and let them know that apparently they’re probably all sex offenders!
? I think OP was saying being on Roblox over the age of 40 was the pedo thing, not Discord.
I could be mistaken though.
That’s what I gathered too! I think the downvoting folks are taking the comment in a vacuum, not considering what they’re replying to.
Tell me about it. AxeAndSickle is my go to for online gaming
As someone under 25, this is bullshit. I’m the only person my age I know that doesn’t use Instagram
i think you’re severely overestimating how discerning most zoomers are about social media
They might as well be demanding my Spotify Playlist.
Need to clean up majorly before submitting. Not sure if I should be more worried about certain lyrics or extreme noise and/or extreme weirdness.
Do you think I can keep pornocore tracks? I mean, they dont look at genre names, surely?
Or under the age of 25. Nobody is voluntarily signing up for Instagram in the modern era.
Ok this will make me sound 8,000 years old, but what social network are the kids these days using? TikTok exists, but that isn’t really a personal blogging site like Facebook, Myspace, Instagram, etc. What is the equivalent for Facebook for present day high school and college students? Is everyone just on discord?
I don’t think that people do that very much any more, since the medium has changed.
People don’t really do things like make blog posts as much as they used to.
I think large group chats. Benefits of larger audience posting without being completely public-facing.
Nobody does personal blogging. Well, except a few specific primates doing so on Xitter. And I’ve also seen some people with at least half a brain getting a domain and writing blogs there in hopes someone clicks on their link.
You’re reading blog to literally. Think how people traditionally use Facebook/Myspace, posting regular updates, photos from their life, etc, intended primarily for friends and family to see. What’s the equivalent of that for kids today?
None. It is no longer “cool” to post your entire life onto the internet. Source: I am a kid.
I mean, outside of posting a few pics of college events, I don’t think most of my friends post pictures to Instagram. Hell, some of them like me don’t even have Instagram/major social media anymore.
Before I left Insta, I didn’t even bother to follow friends/irl people I know
because I’d rather talk to them in person that shit’s dumb, I really only looked at memes, silly reels/vids, and fanart of stuff. Like 90% of Gen Z is only on social media for content and lols, not to update each other on their livesI talk to my friends in person. We share pictures of shit we do in life to each other in group chats, but 95% of what we do was done as a group anyway. We don’t really feel the need to let randos/online friends know every thing we’re doing all the time.
Yeah, that sounds insane. Everyone knows those platforms are selling your data. I don’t think most young people are that stupid.
Yall are making playlists? I just add all songs to the liked and just hit skip until I find songs I’m in the mood for.
you have no idea how popular insta is if you think this is the case
You have no idea how many people still use dial-up internet. shrug
It’s still pigeonholed to a generational cohort.
Data harvesting disguised as a job application
Try :() :;:
My Instagram handle is '); DROP TABLE AccountNames;–
I have neither, what would I do?
Try a SQL injection attack
I don’t even have a TikTok account, lol.
You shouldn’t have an Instagram account, either. Meta is more evil than Google.
A decade ago I would’ve agreed. Now I’m not too sure there’s enough difference to be significant.
I mean the second part of your comment. Obviously I agree with not having an IG lol
These are evil companies, but I am curious what metric you’re using to say one is worse than the other when their objectives and methods are similar.
Then you are not qualified for this job
Have one just in case
Anyone asking for your full address at the job application stage isn’t usually legit either. Just don’t. You can give that to a BG check company after an offer is made and accepted.
Source - am HR
where I live, there is a street near mine that is locally famous for being a trouble making poor area.
Felony Flats is one of the nicer nicknames that neighborhood has. The street I live on is also famous, but it is famous for being the road with the old historical houses and generally upper class atmosphere, the popular walkway/trail runs alongside it.
Everything being equal and it came down to splitting hairs, if someone was to see the street names and addresses and knows the area, they would absolutely give me an opportunity vs my neighbor of just a few blocks away.
Felony Flats is one of the nicer nicknames that neighborhood has.
Please tell me there’s also a Misdemeanor Manor somewhere in your city.
That’s where all the rich college kids’ daddies live.
It’s less an issue of getting a job and more an issue of data miners masquerading as job applications.
That really depends on the jurisdiction.
In the UK, it is mandatory to provide your actual address for most positions, for example.
Brit here. I have never been asked for my address pre-offer.
What?
It seems pretty resonable for my employer to know where I live…
Here in Sweden, they get all of that info via our personal number which we submit to them when accepting the possition
Application vs accepting an offer are quite different - an employer doesn’t need to know where you live if they aren’t accepting you and you applied online. Though it’s definitely the norm here in Germany to include the address on the application, too.
It’s also that job applicants are such a ripe group for data theft; is this job real? Create a fake company site, post an ad, get personal info on a ton of people for scams, fraud, ID theft, etc. there are so many new companies, fake companies it’s impossible to tell the difference often.
The less into you give earlier in the process, unless required in your country, the better. Generally companies using a real applicant tracking system are more likely to be legit but even then.
Always go directly to the employers site to apply (though this does remove quick/easy apply options for things like indeed and linked in). Your privacy or a job is a messed up choice.
Not one employer of mine knew or cared where I lived. They knew whether I did the job or not.
But do they need to know when you apply, or only after you’ve been hired?
Why would my employer need to know where I live? That makes no sense.
So they pay taxes to the correct state, and offer insurance that is valid for medical establishments near you. Sometimes they mail physical letters in the mail.
Id simply put “none” in that box
“N/A” is the correct answer unless your account happens to be under your real name. “Fuck you, try and find it” is what you should be thinking.
I was so proud when I read about teenagers who have a named social account and their “secondary” real account, because their schools required access to track them.
Looking forward to the day I’m unemployable for not having those accounts instead of just for being really easy to find out I’m a communist
I recently attempted to apply for a job and they wanted a link to my LinkedIn page. Fair enough, but then they also had another spot for “Website” that was mandatory to fill in, and it would not allow me to continue with the application until I had a legit website in there, and it wouldn’t accept the same link as my LinkedIn page that I’d already used in the space above, so I just gave up. Fuckers.
Use https://example.com/ lol
But, yeah, it’s gotten ridiculous. No one wants to work, though…
Avoid use in operations.
Damn! I wanted to use it.
Put in a random github page and explain in the interview.
bit.ly that redirects to LinkedIn?
“Our application statistics show everybody has IG and TikTok accounts.”
I don’t have either one of these. Jesus.
Same.
I technically have an IG. It has 1 photo of not me and I’ve never commented
I might have an insta they come automatically with a Facebook account I think I’ve never accessed it nor do I even know how to.
And it’s required. I genuinely have neither. Am I not welcome to apply?
Sadly these people would probably assume that you were lying.
You’re on an fbi list for not having one and another list for having neither
At least I’m not on the Epstein list.
Oddly enough that’s leadership material in 21st century
Honestly if you aren’t being watched by at least 9 letters worth of agencies, you’re boring
I’d just write “none”
You have to create some and post how amazing the company is you are applying to
N/A
N/A
This is probably rage bait TBH.
since this is required…I’m sure the position involves some type of social media presence on insta and tiktok
I’ve had first-hand accounts of in-person interviewers turning their laptops to the interviewee and asking them to log in to their social media accounts.
I’ve also had first person accounts of interviewees laughing and leaving immediately.
As would any sane person
I couldn’t imagine having that happen. I would leave so fast, but not before telling them what a waste of fucking time this had been.
“Sorry, my password manager is on my laptop at home.”
“Required” doesn’t mean you have to provide account credentials. It just means you have a provide a string of characters to complete the form.
Noneor/are strings of character.Well since we are picking nits, it could be that the form checks in real time and won’t accept a non-existent account name.
But yeah, the red asterisks are disconcerting.
That level of automation in an HR form is a pipe dream
Well since we are picking nits, it could be that the form checks in real time and won’t accept a non-existent account name.
If this happened, this would be my cue to withdraw my application: that’s one employer I wouldn’t want to work for.
Doing social media isn’t yet a legal requirement, so whoever makes it a requirement for employment can fuck right off.
I wonder how safe they are from SQL injection…
I don’t have a tiktok and I think I deleted my Instagram because I never use it and they were sending me email. I’m betting those aren’t the only two services they ask about. You could enter None for each but seems like if they’re asking for these, they’re going to take a lack of answers as a strike against you and probably reject the application.
So best to reject the job listing first
put “logout” in these forms and watch them logout from their account
lmao this is genius
It’s anecdotal, but back when I was on Reddit, I saw someone say that a prospective employer actually required your full credentials so that they could check your private information as well.
That not only sounds illegal and shady, it would be the dumbest thing you could do.
Now somebody else has your account, uploads some Epstein material for shits and giggles and you can go to jail
That is an immediate “Nope the fuck out of there, you do NOT want to work in het place”
You slipped out a bit of Dutch at the end there.
Could be, but what part, exactly?
“het place”
Strongly agreed!
Small company overreach.
They probably also ask you a bunch of illegal questions in the screening
Doesn’t sound illegal at all. Immoral sure. But there’s no way governments have created a law to make asking for social logins illegal
i recently looked up the Security clearance law in my country, which has 3 levels.
And only in the highest level, for social media, all they do is look at your public profile (if i did not misread it) (They do stuff like asking people close to you questions tho)
Yeah but this is asking for their credentials which is an absolute direct NO, as that would be extremely risky for me
That makes sense, because any government agencies that actually have a need for intimate knowledge of your social media footprint don’t actually need your password to harvest ALL the data that network has on you public and private.
I mean not really. In my country atleast, any goverment agency would require an order from an judge, which essential means that someone is part of active investigation/ suspect of a crime
spy agencys might have different capabilties, but practices like this would still be most likely illegal, without a cause
I mean maybe if they have an investigation and they want to use that information as evidence sure that would be illegal to use but for background checks any of that information is fair game if they are able to get it. Like if your terms of service specifically say they wont give any information out for any reason, maybe you can sue them if you can prove they got the information with your name attached directly instead of it being sold after being anonymized in aggregate then another company/data broker aggregating other data on you to infer who’s data belongs to who with device footprints then selling that to the government as a service which i mean good luck. But most likely the terms you sign say they will hand over data for criminal investigations or matters of national security to government entities which they can state background checks for high level clearance positions is a matter of national security.
i mean as i said, the law says what exactly is done in such a high level clearance check, and it does not say that they check like private information on social media. So they cant legally optain this information like this, and because of the privacy laws, the social media platforms would not be allowed to hand that information out just because someone asks without any legal claim either
sure spy agencys might do different stuff, and there might be some other type of international data base they can look into for a background check
But normal goverment agencys cant just bypass the law (in my country), thats just a myth.
No country is publicizing what checks they do for a high level security clearance check unless they want to give bad actors and easy way to beat their checks. What country is this and whats the exact law you are referencing? If you can provide me direct evidence for that I’ll eat my words but I think you are misunderstanding something if im honest.
SÜD (Sicherheitsüberprüfungsgesetz) In germany
The full one https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/s_g/index.html
The specific actions https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/s_g/__12.html
Sure i mean its totaly possible that i misunderstand something. But i think this is the law that defines these things in germany, even for like BND (spy agency) members
They just buy the data en masse from data brokers. All of the process is civil rights theater.
data brokers dont have private social media data like chats for example.
There’s no need to involve the courts when the social media networks are complicit. It’s not as if “how” they obtained the data will ever be tested in court, they only need the data for their own internal investigations. Courts and spy agencies don’t have anything to do with it.
that is just not true. Social media networks are also required by law to keep this data safe and not hand it out just because anyone asks. This is illegal and not how it works at all.
If that illusion makes you feel safer, then I don’t care enough to argue with you about it.
feel free to provide any evidence to your claims
My boss worked at IBM before his current role. He said a former colleague of his listed him as a reference for his security clearance and he “got to meet with some men in suits with no sense of humor” as part of it.
Honestly I’ll probably never go for any jobs that require a security clearance because honestly that’s just a level of stress that I don’t need
Probrally a scammer
