Description: A picture titled “Russian plants” in a 3 x 3 grid with one of the grid items being Jill Stein, the rest are flora.
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I must be too American to understand this one ^^;
Same. I was just like, “ooh, I love jade plants!”
Now do zionist plants. I hope you have a whole book.
It sucks that common mugwort is still illegal here in Indiana. Thankfully, there’s a dispensary about 30 minutes away in Illinois.
Wait does it have psychoactive properties? First I’m hearing of mugwort, sounds like a witch should use it.
I think you need to take a closer look at the plant labeled as mugwort.
Oh I see the joke lol. It doesn’t really look that much like weed and other plants do have psychoactive properties too sometimes, tbf! Haha.
Dude, that’s literally weed.
This is mugwort.
Well, this is the weed I’m familliar with
No buds on the drawing, and some of the leaves go back down the stem in the drawing like the above picture of mugwort, not weed.
a scientific drawing of weed in a similar style would look more like this.
I guess I’m just too familiar with actual weed plants, so it doesn’t look exactly right to me because it isn’t.
No one person, thing, or organization I regularly interact with has tried as hard as lemmy.world to convince me she is some kinda fucked up spoiler effect politics demon.
Maybe dems should actually try to make ranked choice voting happen for real, instead of lip service to the idea, if they want the people who prefer third parties to support them. And maybe dems should attempt to do anything at all to address the concerns of the third party voters, instead of just threatening them with trump some more. Just some ideas that might alleviate the problem more effectively than getting really mad at people on the internet.
It’s very weird having scrolled in my feed toward the world stuff. It almost seems artificial, like the redditors all collected here with all the hivemind weirdness and astroturfing.
and yeah, Democrats would rather send their dark-money and ‘venture-capitalist’-funded PAC lawyers to purge 3rd parties from ballots (really democratic, Democrat party; I’m writing in PSL regardless if they can’t get back on and telling everyone I know to) than make themselves appealing at all to the people abandoning their moribund and redundant party ‘like rats from a sinking ship’.
They would rather fight with the Republicans over the (shrinking) voter base of rich and upper ‘middle class’ petty bourgeois rightwingers, and alienate all of their leftwing base, and continue abandoning the 35-50% that straight up don’t vote for either of these duopoly-of-exploiters in this fascist-and-vampire show, than reorient toward positions of “not genocide” or “not nuclear-brinksmanship forever-war proxy-wars” or “not-constantly bipartisanly increasing and expanding the US military and neo-colonial racketeer system which is incidentally one of the leading contributors to climate change.”
or “not continuing filling the world with CIA torture camps” or "not being just as or in some ways more right wing than trump on immigration somehow
It’s telling that they refuse to do any of these things a large portion of the population wants; to the point where Muslim groups are advocating voting for 3rd parties who aren’t for drinking the blood of Palestinians (apparently a tall order for US politicians), and instead would rather put so much effort into demonizing and crushing 3rd parties who do advocate against these things.
I don’t even know if they’re capable of not flying to the right and pandering to right wingers more and more due to their donor base. Their structure is inherently based on funding and campaigning and working for the worst billionaire imperialists and arms-dealer death-merchants in the world and AIPAC and tech monopolies etc. If we all pushed up the PSL to hold their working class margins hostage that they (unlike republicans) actually rely on and take for granted, they might break in half trying to reorient. Maybe they’d float a reformist party to prevent everyone going socialist against the open-fanged republicans who nobody ever had any illusions about and half the dems who are basically republicans will join them, and the other half will flee to the new reformist party (probably alienating their “left wing” into more radical politics because that party would become democrat-ified)
People just want to be lied to about the Democrats that they’re different and ‘acting resistance’ at all to the republicans, when they’re really not that different — and where they (barely) are different, they just capitulate and help the Republicans do whatever they were going to do, in the name of “bipartisanship” and “reaching across the aisle”. Like when Obama had both houses of congress and refused to enshrine women’s bodily autonomy and LGBTQ civil rights into law. And then gave away a free Supreme Court seat in capitulation. Then Biden denounces the idea of pushing to expand and pack the court because it’ll “politicize the court” as if that ship isn’t gone past the horizon forever, while doing nothing as women’s and LGBTQ rights are torn down throughout the country, even with a Democrat president. It’s almost like they don’t actually care, or even like when women’s rights and LGBTQ rights are under attack because they can drum up fear about the republicans and look ‘better’ by comparison after creating the problem in the first place, and keep the vampire-and-fascist (dog-and-pony) show going, and get all the gullible liberal votes that “they’ll vote for us anyway — we’re not the republicans” Which circles back to why they’re so scared of and pushing demonization and repression of 3rd parties I guess. That’s a pretty sweet cruise-control-deal they have hoodwinking the populace in a sort of face/heel drama for their ‘audience’
People just want to be lied to about the Democrats that they’re different and ‘acting resistance’ at all to the republicans, when they’re really not that different
There is a fundamental difference between Liberal Democrats and Conservative Republicans with regard to domestic policy and social issues. That’s why you’ve got folks like Obama and Hilary and Biden bending on gay marriage, throwing kickbacks to the domestic EV market, playing ref between Big Business and Unions, and occasionally kicking some money back for student debt relief. This, while Republicans seem to prefer anti-Trans witch hunts, bailouts to failing coal companies, a court packed full of Pinkertons, and full privatization of the education sector.
I’m sympathetic to folks who see the choice between Trump and Harris as a question of whether we’re going to do full scale Final Solution shit to the LGBTQ community, because looking at Florida and Texas you can see legitimacy to that fear.
But when it comes to foreign policy? The MIC has both parties by the balls. This “Trump will be worse on Gaza” is pure cope. This is a campaign of extermination that Biden has actively facilitated. There’s nothing left for Trump to do. Similarly, with Ukraine, the fear is that Trump’s going to step in and deprive Zelensky of our latest arms shipment. He won’t. Trump loves his arms deals almost as much as he loves his trade deals.
It’s almost like they don’t actually care, or even like when women’s rights and LGBTQ rights are under attack because they can drum up fear about the republicans and look ‘better’ by comparison after creating the problem in the first place
Domestically, liberals are perfectly happy to push Women’s Rights and LGBTQ Rights amendments at the state level. The biggest hurdle for Dem state reforms have been shitty governors like Hochul and Newsome. When you have a Beshear at the helm, he’s happy to rubber stamp progressive reforms even from a state as red as Kentucky.
Nationally, Biden fucking sucks. Harris sucks. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you. But Dems do have people on their roster that don’t suck. Dem populism does still exist, particularly in the smaller states.
But the Dems are trending towards a very scary nationalist reflection of the GOP. The Eric Adams style candidate is a fucking sociopath and they’re as common to the party as any milquetoast Beto or SucDem AOC. The quality progressives - your Jamal Bowmans and Cori Bushs - are being drummed out of the party by big money. The Silicon Valley hucksters - your Gilibrands and Newsoms - are continuing to climb the ladder.
Its fucking crazy when you’ve got Dems clapping like seals over the Dick Cheney endorsement. Grim tidings for the future of the party.
It almost seems artificial, like the redditors all collected here with all the hivemind weirdness and astroturfing.
Because, of course, that’s exactly what did happen. Lemmy isn’t quite as bad as reddit (yet), but they’re working hard to make it that way.
If only you could put that same effort into looking at the GOP. This post is disingenuous as fuck.
“And maybe they should do it RIGHT NOW, and maybe I’ll vote then but it’ll still be for not Dems, and maybe they should also stop genocide, and maybe maybe maybe. …”
Did I capture your full wishlist there? Anything else you’d like now without regard for how long it takes?
Did I capture your full wishlist there?
No. Not even close.
But yes having a liberated and democratic society that doesn’t support genocide is pretty high on the list.
Have fun being really mad on the internet I guess
Whoa you think that reply was someone being mad? Oh boy you’re in for some disappointment as I chuckled, wrote my response and went on with my day.
That’s a really elaborate way to say “I support genocide”.
I support genocide fuck the Seventh Day Adventist, strip them of their religion and scatter em to the winds!
Thats how ya support genocide ya fucken dipshit, recognizing one cant really do anything is not. The problem with Israel is that to cut em off would require an act of Congress not just the president. And lets be honest that aint fucken happenen’.
Oh man! Making the russian flag out of her and using her hair as the white is golden!
Actually it’s white
Libs seething that Greens won’t compromise on genocide.
They’re terrified, because the election is close and a reliable liberal voting block - Arab Americans - is increasingly disenchanted with a liberal leadership that’s pandering to fascists.
If too many Deerborn, Michigan residents defect from the Harris ticket, liberals are going to be foisted with another four years of Trump. And then the Arab-Americans will be to blame, of course. Not the AIPAC lobbyists or the MIC merchants of death or the O&G land-thieves or the domestic white nationalists. Its those stupid Arabs and their pro-Russian Jill Stein agenda.
I still remember back in January? February? Libs were telling me that Gaza wouldn’t be a factor in this election, because nobody really cared.
This isn’t still true? What percentage of people genuinely plan to vote Green this election? Lemmy is the only place I’ve seen Jill Stein mentioned, at all.
They will 100% compromise on war crimes. It’ll just be for
UkraineRussia rather than Israel. Edit: make sure I’m clear on who I’m talking about.Why not neither?
Why not, indeed.
According to Jill she was there to…
deliver the—one of the main messages of my campaign, which is that war has failed in the Middle East and that we need a peace offensive consisting of a weapons embargo and a freeze on the funding, the bank accounts of those countries that are sponsoring terrorism. At the time, Russia had just begun to bomb Syria. And my message was that Russia was following in the disastrous footsteps of U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.
So ironically she was actually there talking about a very similar subject in a way to this exact post, war in the middle east. Good to see she hasn’t changed her policy, I guess.
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8/1/jill_stein_on_trump_as_a
Can I get a dinner with Putin where I tell him he shouldn’t do bad things in the Middle East? Because as far as world leaders are concerned, Jill Stein is only slightly more important than you or me, unless Putin has a much more specific reason.
I bet if you were the Green Party’s (or even the Libertarian’s) nominee for the 2016 presidential race you could, in 2015, yes.
Probably not now but things have changed a little since then if you haven’t noticed lol.
Dude, that statement above is brazenly self-serving. She wasn’t there to do anything about the Middle East. You only get dinner invites with Putin if he expects to get something from you. Doubly so when Michael Flynn is sitting right next to him.
Balsam & jade Russian plants? Where is Russia located in your opinion
I have no issues with bottom middle
Looks ai generated, so not too surprised it’s wrong
What’s with the focus on Jill Stein? Third parties aren’t relevant and the number of people who vote for them is far overshadowed by the number of people who don’t vote at all. There are better uses of time than this lame two minutes hate session.
What’s with the focus on Jill Stein?
She’s a release valve for the Arab-American protest vote. Arab-Americans are concentrated in the Midwest. Kamala desperately needs the Midwest wall to hold in order to win the White House.
“Jill Stein is a Russian Plant” is going to become “Arab Americans stabbed America in the back” in a few months, particularly if Harris loses. We’re just seeing the prelude to the anti-Muslim hysteria boiling up in the Democratic Party.
Since Democrats are so corrupt they refuse to abolish the antidemocratic electoral college and have already lost two elections they had the majority of votes in.
Harris, while popular, is in a dead heat in several swing states with Trump and it’s very likely she’ll lose. Liberals think that having third party candidates takes away votes from Harris even through all evidence points to the contrary.
Since
DemocratsRepublicans are so corrupt they refuse to abolish the antidemocratic electoral college and have already ~~lost~won two elections they had themajorityminority of votes in.FTFY.
Since Democrats and Republicans are the same party…
FTFY
What’s with the focus on Jill Stein?
She makes Harris look bad.
Russian shills + USA republicans began pushing propaganda for her in a big way after they couldn’t find a decent angle to effectively attack Harris like they did with Biden. Leave that propaganda unchecked and she will divert more than a few votes because propaganda works, so fortunately there is a lot of pushback in the other way.
Democrats don’t have a comprehensive worldview that can explain why they are so widely disliked and why so many people are apathetic/actively hostile towards America. Russiagate fills the gap in their understanding of the world by imagining that Vladimir Putin is a Great Man of History and that his perfidious scheming is responsible for all of the ills of America’s democratic system.
Can’t speak for many of the rest, but jade plants are from southern Africa. I demand geophylogenetically accurate memes.
Jade plants were very popular as house plant in the soviet union, everyone had one at home. This could be a reason why AI got confused there
Everybody knows that the best political arguments are generated by “AI”, \s
I sat on a stinging nettle a few years ago when I had a mostly outdoor job. Now I am an expert in identifying them.
Imagine the indigenous person hungry enough to figure that out.
That’s an interesting question. I can’t even imagine it was hunger as even kgs of green leaves won’t satiate a family’s hunger. Maybe it was an attempt at checking if the plant could cure when cooked? Maybe it was believed that all stinging and poisonous plants had magical properties? Who knows.
It’s like rhubarb. It’s all poisonous except the stems.
I hate stinging nettles so much… They’re always the first to pop up in spring and ruin an otherwise nice walk in the forest.
As a plant watch, or whatever this is called, I can assure you that this chart will not help you recognised local flora.
US Greens are damned traitors to democracy itself.
You can tell they aren’t serious by the lack of local political effort they put in.
(This post was accidentally edited in an attempt to reply to someone else, this is an in-exact re-creation of what the comment said)
Posting a link to a handful of names on sporadic ballots across the US is a dumb person’s idea of what “serious electoral effort” is.
Son, I am disappoint.
Yes they are a much smaller political party, that doesnt mean theyre not putting in serious effort
I remember that green party candidate in AZ a few years back had more funding from Republicans lmao.
As in from Republican voters? Who cares? If politicians, then there might be some weird political games with that candidate.
But besides, that’s really your concern? Democrats get funding from billionaire imperialists and arms-dealing weapons-manufacturer death-mechants. Which have successfully lobbied for the expansion of militarism for decades which has proven incredibly profitable and is also destroying the planet faster than almost anything
Both duopoly parties get funding from the worst racketeers, liars, and murderers of the world; the richest most monstrous exploiters that exist. I’m not voting Green, I’m voting for Claudia De La Cruz for PSL — but taking swings against the greens who are one of the few taking anti-war stances vs these duopoly-of-imperialists who are unified in genocide and always have been unified in genocide, and are continuing to be unified in all of the worst policies including now Biden doing Trump’s border shutdown after deregulating and privatizing some of the concentration camps (a very Republican thing to do), just makes no sense.
The people who need this consent-manufacturing level of criticism of OP and a lot of comments are not the Greens or other 3rd parties; the people who are ruining the world and the country are not the Greens and other 3rd parties. Muslims have been coming out in support of the 3rd parties because the Greens and PSL and West’s party are the only ones not being actively evil. Democrats have no reason to not be actively evil and keep flying to the right if everyone’s going to vote for them no matter what because they’re "((barely) not the republicans).
They usually do.
What do you think a political party is?
If you think a political party (or “serious electoral/political effort”) is just “names on a few ballots,” there is no amount of crayons that someone can use to draw you a picture and get you up to speed.
Pick a candidate or GoTV organization to volunteer with for a while and come back after that experience.
Did do that, helped several greens get elected. The green party has more grassroots support than any dem pres candidate in history. You have billionaires, racist soccer moms, aipac, and no real humans on your side.
The green party has more grassroots support than any dem pres candidate in history.
Do you have a source or was this bullshit pulled from your own ass?
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The one guy running for a seat on the Arizona Corporation commission is the only one I saw running in the short of race where the Greens have a chance to affect change. Running for the federal House or Senate isn’t where they should be focusing their efforts until they build a base of support.
Why not run for the House? A seat has 750k-800k population and quite a few districts are much further left then US average. If a further left candidate would run its those seats, that would force the Democrats to move left.