And they could all coordinate by fax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fax#History
Whoa.
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He could have done it all in Katz’s Deli, opened 1888. At that point, the house band could’ve been rocking out on Zildjian cymbals that were already 250+ years old.
Now you’re telling me that Dracula keeps Kosher??
Consuming blood is not kosher!
Well Katz’s doesn’t serve blood. Clearly he’s there for a delicious corned beef sandwich.
It’s actually why he sucks the blood out first like that.
the house band could’ve been rocking out on Zildjian cymbals that were already 250+ years old.
Yeah, the mehter takımı would have gone hard. What is this, Yahşi batı?
A reminder that there is an actual wild west gun slinger (sort of) in Dracula. He’s the perfect stereotype of a Texan cowboy.
Also an invitation to our Dracula bookclub in !vampires@lemmy.zip.
A Texas what? Oh, cowboy.
Like a vacero not like a youthful minotaur though
Pirates are still a thing, they just don’t look cool anymore.
TBF, I think movies made old pirates look a lot cooler than they really were.
Amen. Ain’t nothin’ cool about scurvy.
TBF, you probably also got scurvy if you were a regular sailor. If anything, pirates had an easier time because they don’t have to go on intercontinental voyages, and caribbean pirates also had a huge leg up over sailors who were active in arctic regions.
If you look at old drawings and depictions, they do look like we know them, but they may have been embellished even then. But Hollywood didn’t invent the image.
Shocker: movies are inaccurate.
It should be “playing with Nintendo” instead of “playing Nintendo” toe be fair. To be honest, “playing with Nintendo cards” would be the most accurate, but “with Nintendo” is still accurate enough and still gives the sentence the desired effect. But no, “playing Nintendo” isn’t correct. Unless they made some specific game variant and included the rules with their cards or something.
Guy who invited his friends over to play Nintendo, and when they arrive pulls out a deck of hanafuda cards.
He would be playing hanafuda, which is the Japanese card game that Nintendo was producing at that time. Not as funny as imagining Dracula trying to beat Ninja Gaiden or whatever.
Was that a general game or something they designed? If it’s something they made “playing Nintendo” works.
I’m really overanalyzing this joke, it’s funny either way, obviously.
They’re traditional Japanese playing cards. They existed for centuries before Nintendo.
Fun fact: Nintendo still makes these! (Although they might be hard to find, because I think they’re only sold in Japan.)
They probably said either the name of a specific game or “playing karuta”, which is a word derived from the Portuguese word for card (carta).
Well, did they have their own proprietary game for their cards? Or were they just making poker cards?
Hanafuda
That’s the question I’m asking!
Samurai at this point were samurai true, but mostly just office workers at this point. Not exactly the armored warriors most people would think of as a samurai.
Where would the pirates be from? Golden age of piracy had long past in Europe afaik. Or are we just being amorphous with the fact there are always pirates?
I think that’s your B story right there, the fact that they’re all misfits, too out of step with their times, driven by a wild yearning and a sense of romanticism. The movie itself is 0% anachronistic, but the protagonist are anachronistic in spirit.
Dracula meanwhile as a villain represents postmodernism, apathy, and the banality of evil. He’s ironic, sleek, with it - a Londoner par excellence, rich and idle, but his life is a living death, figuratively as well as the whole undead thing.
The third act sees the protagonists combine their fighting styles excellently, but without avail. However, their foolhardy spirit and absurd heroism inspires Dracula to an inner awakening, and they come to an understanding in the end.
Post credits stinger: Van Helsing and Captain Ahab combine forces to take down a were-whale.
A gun-slinger, a samurai and a pirate fighting Dracula? What is this, the new JoJo?
Every time I hear the Samurai, Cowboy and Pirates thing, I get upset that Pirates, Vikings and Knights didn’t get a second sequel or spinoff using Cowboys and Samurai instead of Vikings and Knights.
Çowboys V. Zombie Samurai sounds awesome
This is such a good “Well, yes, but actually no” factoid. Coke back then was a medicinal drink with cocaine as the active ingredient. Nintendo originally made playing cards. Jeans probably would have repelled Dracula in the source text since they are associated with the working poor.
Coke was originally among many other “tonics” pushed back in the day, but it also wasn’t marketed under the name Coca-Cola while it was sold as a patent medicine tonic. It also was only was sold in that form for a few months before being made nonalcoholic and marketed as a beverage later that same year. Sales were initially poor and only picked up with aggressive advertising campaigns, which I suppose is a strategy that Coke never left behind and leads us to the world where we are today.
Still coulda drank a coke and “played nintendo”.
Yes, but a coked out, hanafuda playing Yakuza dracula would be terrifying.
The samurai wouldn’t even have a range disadvantage, since they very eagerly adopted firearms
They also were primarily archers
And nothing much has changed since, just more, more jeans, more coke, more blood suckers
Abraham Lincoln could have sent a fax to a samurai
They might’ve all existed, but did they all exist in the same place at once?
Japan was opened up by American gunboats in 1853 at which point Japanese-American trade was present. That puts Nintendo in reach of American sailors. Levi’s was founded in the west coast port city of San Francisco as workwear. This makes it plausible for a laborer to wear them while working as a deckhand or other skilled labor job where they may pick up a taste for Japanese card games while gambling in Japan. If they find themselves on the Atlantic route any time in the southeast and they’re likely to run into coca cola which was a refreshing and energizing beverage owing to the sugar, caffeine, and cocaine. If they keep some bottles on board for a special occasion they may very well have some left by the time they arrive in England where Brahm Stoker is writing Dracula.
Now, why is a Gothic writer gambling in a Japanese game with an American sailor and noticing his curious pant choice? I couldn’t tell you enough about Stoker to say if that’s normal, but add some emotional abuse and a bisexual baccanal and it sounds exactly like some Lord Byron bullshit and Percy Shelley may join in.
Samurai, gunslingers, and pirates are even more reasonable. There was an age of piracy located in the Caribbean and gulf of Mexico a few decades before the wild west. They’re unlikely to be fighting at the time, but as New Orleans settles down it’s plausible that a pirate may want to open a saloon or brothel outside the reach of the government and polite society. During the wild west the Japanese government underwent the Meiji Restoration which ended the feudal system and put a lot of samurai out of work (they had a rebellion about it). A samurai deciding to hop a ship to America to seek ronin work is something I feel like i would’ve heard if it had happened, but it is within the realm of “yeah I wouldn’t question if a mostly reputable source said it happened”. And well I suppose one or two western style gunslingers may have been in the West at the time.
He’s not a samurai (and in fact is probably one of the few members of the cast who is not arguably some flavor of samurai) but this is basically Lee’s ending in Last Blade 2:
I’m here for the Lord Byron bullshit.
Colonization made strange things happen. Once, for example, Spain recruited indigenous warriors from Tlaxcala (Central Mexico, allies of theirs since their battles against the Mexicas/“Aztecs”) and went to the Philippines, and there they fought Japanese pirates and samurais, basically.
Accurate info here.
On earth? Yes. Within traveling distance by sail? Also yes.
Well that’s just sounds like something someone has to make, book, series, movies, whatever im not picky
While the Old West goes back a few centuries, I’d say the “gunslingers era” isn’t until the first Colt revolver becomes available in the mid 1830s. It took a bit of digging to find pirates that would have definitely been around late enough into the 1800s that they’d be contemporary with gunslingers and samurai (class abolished in 1870), but old school river piracy lasted, even in just the US, into at least the late 1870s, so I guess that all checks out, as long as you weren’t expecting Blackbeard or anything.
Piracy pretty much always exists. As long as valuables are being transported by ship there will be people who want to capture those ships.
Yeah, but modern pirates with small motorboats and automatic guns don’t have the flair that hollywood pirates are known for.
Actual 17th-18th century pirates didn’t really have that flair either.
They did live on sailboats, sail the caribbean and wear 17th/18th century clothes.
