Brilliant!
Remember when they unveiled “the plan” many years ago? Huge stacks of paper, it looked very comprehensive indeed.
Of course, all the pages were blank. IT WAS TOP SECRET, YOU SEE, INVISIBLE INK!
Now, I’m wondering what was on the other 20K pages after the “$2000 credit a year” page. That was invisible. Eight years ago? Ten? I hate it here
ETA $2000 will be worth $20 by 2027. We should print more money to fix that!
Even if the government gives us $20,000 to buy health insurance, premiums will likely increase by $20,000.
Now now, why would you only increase it by the amount the government will give you, you clearly dont have what it takes to be a CEO. If everyone would get 20k. Increase the price to 25k
Bingo. Socializing profits or whatever this is called…”neoliberalism” “private public partnerships” is exactly what destroyed everything good about western society.
My dudes, we have nothing to lose but our chains
How can there still RELATIVELY many people be able to have kids financially? The fertility rate in most european countries in comparison is lower, although we have affordable healthcare (well compared to the US at least).
Why do you think they’re trying to shut down reproductive rights? They want people to have kids despite financial capability to raise them. As long as they survive growing up, they’ll labor.
And be raised by parents who don’t have any financial independence, ensuring they’re also in debt slavery for the rest of their lives.
Things feel so dystopian that I get the feeling that after they get everyone on debt slavery that they’ll put propaganda about how it’s unfair that debt is absolved on death and that your family/kids should pay for it. Fox News will be like: “why should a company’s debts just disappear? it’s unfair to the lender!”
Hey, someone is going to have to do all those below-subsistence jobs that the deported immigrants have been doing.
This is just a roundabout way of subsidizing the health insurance industry while making his base think he actually did something for them.
Every subsidy that goes to a person basically is a roundabout way to fund an industry. Even tax write offs are. Like a mortgage interest rate deduction just helps banks and the real estate industry, not the people buying a house. The write off pushes housing prices up, since the banks can give out slightly higher mortgages to borrowers and the market adjusts to the bigger inflow of cash and supply doesn’t increase faster. If the write off didn’t exist people could borrow less but houses would cost less as well. This basically happened in my country the Netherlands. Nobody benefited from the introduction of the mortgage interest deduction except the banks and people who already owned a home when the policy was introduced.
No that’s the ACA. This is just peanuts.
Thanks Trump! /s
I mean, it takes minimum 150k per year to raise a family in the US, so that tracks.
Isn’t that basically universal basic income?
If he does it the proper way yes, but it’ll probably be something stupid and strictly controlled to be only insurance
Also ignoring the fact that even if it was $2000 annually no strings attached that still does little, though it would certainly be welcome
Health insurance would magically become $2k more expensive overnight, so
Trump used to support a Canadian-style, single-payer health care plan. However, the closer he got to the presidency, the more he backed away from that. Funny how that works.
Wait… when the government gives people money… that sounds like… SOCIALISM.
This is to point out his hypocrisy, not even to note that this is a stupid way of distributing money (it just goes into the hands of middle men) and only intends to generate some good sounding news instead of actually solving a problem
I can’t tell if this is sarcastic, but I’ll respond the same way regardless.
This is not socialism. Government provided social programs or financial assistance are a basic function of governance. Virtually every government on Earth does this, whether democratic, authoritarian, or communist.
I think they’re playing by the conservative alarmists’ definition of ‘socialism.’
I would have to agree.
Adding $660,000,000,000 to the federal deficit annually and still not making a dent in people’s healthcare costs?
A single-payer universal healthcare system would be cheaper, as almost every other country’s systems show.
The real trick is to get private equity and for-profit corporations out of healthcare. All they do is drive up costs while lowering outcomes.
Healthcare should be a public service, funded by the government.
Yeah, the US actually pays more PUBLIC funds per person than most other nations. Then the private cost on top - all for worse health outcomes.
We need more Luigis just from a financial perspective.
as almost every other country’s systems show
You can take out the “almost” here. Literally every other country on Earth pays half or less per capita than what we pay in the US, and this has been the case for decades.
UNH, CVS, ELV and CI share holders disagree with you and thanks to the SCOTUS Citizen United decision they have to money and the legal framework to legally bribe politicians. I’ll suggest to invest in those companies rather than flight them.
I’m not contributing to evil companies. “If you can’t beat them, join them” does not apply when they’re responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths a year and putting millions of people in poverty.
People willing to do anything to get rich is precisely the problem in this country, and I’m not going to be a part of it.
You’re right about Citizens United, though. It should be revoked.
In other news most countries only pay 3 to 5% of their income for universal healthcare but sure we’ll see how Pedo Care works out for Americans
We get discounted 9% of our income every month in my south American country for a deficient health care system, so we have to opt for the private option for an extra 2% of discount.
Even with that you still pay less
The clinics are still expensive and they do all they can to keep the line going up, while the hospitals are collapsed
What country?
The health insurance plans will just raise their prices by another $2000
I wouldn’t expect anything else from a Trump Policy - everything he does is to feather the nests of his wealthy supporters. I guarantee this trump-care policy was suggested and supported by health insurers.
Of course. It didn’t change anything and it’s unrealistic.
This is the biggest lesson I’ve learned in adulthood. As a high schooler I said many things like “just go fix it”.
Problem is there’s always someone who will happily take advantage and ruin something that should be a good thing.
holy shit is it really 26000?? that’s more than what i pay in tax every year in europe. (granted i am poor but)
the US already spends more public funds in healthcare per capita than every country with free healthcare.
on top of that, we pay a shit ton extra for insurance, then a shit ton more in copays/deductibles, plus a shit ton more because something isn’t included…
you could lower taxes by thousands and give everyone free healthcare.
the US healthcare is nothing but a massive scam. the kind where the perpetators kill tens of thousands per year and rake in endless money. there’s no justification besides rich people like being rich, even if it means killing thousands of innocents. in any civilized world those executives should be tortured to death.
You guys need a lot more Italian plumbers…
why? they didn’t do anything, Luigi was with me that day
It was like 500-600 a month for two people a decade ago but the insurance plans on the exchange have gone up in price about a 100 monthly, every year. But they also dissappear after getting too high, so there are increasingly fewer plans from new or small providers. This year it’s 1200 monthly. These plans were actually quite good though compared to regular plans people get from their employer, with 0 copay and 0 deductible. For low income people on the exchange it cost them 0-100$ monthly for them, and the subsidies covered the entire plan cost up to around 1000$ a month. So last year you could have excellent health coverage for 50 dollars a month, but no longer.
The big problem of course was that without the universal mandate, the whole obamacare plan didn’t really work long term because the cost kept going up without any of the parts to keep that price down because of the Supreme court.
these plans were actually quite good though compared to regular plans people get from their employer, with 0 copay and 0 deductible
I’m super skeptical of the 0 deductible plans. I’ve only ever seen them offered in situations where the plans can be expected to be not-great, both on the marketplace for both '25 and '26 (I’d never used the insurance marketplace before last year) and when working at a tiny company with less than 10 employees. I’m not sure how they work but given that I assume they end up costing more than plans with a deductible
Tbh this is also shocking to me as an American. I am not sure if this is only for marketplace plans or a specific kind or what
The marketplace just had their subsidies cut. Its so funny its like “here’s less than 1/3 back what we cut to line our pockets, you filthy animals, PS, fuck off and die, signed Donald Pedophile Trump.”
The insult on top of that injury is that the penalties for being uninsured weren’t removed.
Assuming a typical family of four, 2k a month for marketplace insurance is actually pretty cheap. My partner just got his tax documents, and between him and his employer, they spent 10k last year to insure a single adult. I’ve got a ton of health problems, and we’ve talked about adding me to his plan, but that’s an extra $500 a month.
It’s not 2k for coverage… Its 2k to gfys. Orange man backwards ubi
It’s one healthcare, Michael. What could it cost? $2000?
Damn you beat me to it! Take your upvoter and be proud…
