I’m pulling for Monday. Friday’s already mostly a write-off.
Super optimistic title there lol
I’m with Cowbee. I don’t see this happening outside of a few mom and pop places that decide to do it on their own until “government” forces the change. Just look at the 3 letter jackasses freaking out about WFH.
I was looking for fully remote jobs recently. All the local jobs are back to 3 days in office. One of the recruiters said something like “our employees are happy to go into the office three days a week” and my eyes nearly rolled out of my skull.
“Happy”
It felt more like a threat. Like “if you’re not the type of person to enjoy that then look somewhere else”
Proper read…
People who think this is happening haven’t learned who owns them. A lot of learning to do.
Id rather kill Wednesday.
I’d be so disappointed by this.
Every time I take a day off midweek, it feels like doubling the number of weeks in the week, rather than reducing the number of days.
I’ve found it precisely the opposite: Monday is like a Thursday (so experientially two Thursdays and two Fridays) with a free day to schedule doctor’s appointments, car fixes, and all the other little things you’d normally have to take PTO for but now do not
Wait, so you get a 4 day week but everyone else has to do 5 days so you can go to your appointments?
No. It’s not like businesses that are open 7 days a week require all of their employees to work every one of those days
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When I worked 32 hours at my first job I took out the Wednesday. It’s a great rhythm to get into, two days of work and a day or two in between.
That’s effectively what I had as an undergrad and it was lovely. Wednesdays were (mostly) reserved for labs, so if you weren’t taking chemistry or another class with a lab, you had Wednesdays to sleep in. I rather miss that.
I am self employed and actually do that whenever possible (which is a rare occurrence these days,but I managed to do it for six month once). It sounds counterintuitive to do so, but it’s actually a fairly nice concept. You work for two days, which is not that long and offers you enough chance to really work “all in”. Then you sleep in in Wednesday and do most of the weekly chores - all that shit you would normally do half of your Saturday. And then you do another two days, already approaching a full weekend - which is far less likely to be interrupted by these lousy chores you normally need to do. And if some things remain,you are not having four but two work days in your bones - which makes them easier and usually faster to put behind you.
Can I ask what you do? I need to get a job and I’m dreading it after being out of the work force for a bit. Id much rather be my own boss.
I am a CEO/founder of a small healthcare consulting company.
The 4 day work week likely won’t be established as the standard until Socialism is achieved and the bourgeoisie overthrown, but when that happens it will depend on the job and sector, likely working with different shifts to maintain 24/7 production but with lower workload. Probably a move to a 30 hour work-week, like what PSL suggests.
Don’t be so cynical!
The 4 day work week could be established under capitalism so it’s easier to have two fulltime jobs. 💀
I hate that you’re right…
Nah we’ll move to a three day work week but America will require you to work a minimum of 48 hours to qualify as full time.
But working multiple jobs is cheating on your employer
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Neither. I’d remove Wednesdays.
Middle of the week off day lets you get all your errands done with little annoyance from or waiting behind the public, so you get everything knocked out and have your weekends 100% for you.
More importantly, on a 4 day workweek with Wed/Weekend off, you NEVER work more than two consecutive days. Ever. It’s fantastic.
If everyone had Wednesday off you would need to contend with the public though.
Fuck that. Yeah it means you can stay out later Tuesday, but you can’t do jack shit Wednesday knowing that Thursday is coming up. I’d rather have another Saturday than another Sunday if that makes sense.
Judging from the other comments it’s not for everyone, but personally I love my Wednesdays off. For me it’s mostly about dealing with accumulated fatigue due to a health condition though, and I definitely agree about the errands. When I have lots of medical appointments they’re so easy to schedule lol
Fuck that I’ve done schedules like that before . . I’d much rather just take 3 days in a row. Able to rest so much more. Obviously personal preference though!
Alternating Mondays and Fridays. This gets you alternating two day weekends and 4 day weekends
This is a cool idea that I didn’t consider.
That’s an interesting idea. So, effectively you have a 14 day period (AKA fortnight) with 8 work days and 6 days off. While this door is open, we might as well re-arrange the work days however we want. You could have 2 days of work followed by 2 days off until the end of the fortnight when you’ll just have 4 days off.
I used to work a compressed week and started taking Monday but eventually it moved to Friday. When I took Monday off I felt like I had to pay for it with the next four days, when I took Friday it was like I was being rewarded with an early weekend.
I love using Wednesdays to clear leave (I know, not the best day in terms of utility for holidays and stuff) as you essentially create a new Friday. Work is so much more bearable.
What’s clearing leave? Is that an American concept?
Sounds like a military thing? Not a normal US civilian worker phrase.
Yes, paid time off requests or advanced request to use leave (doctor appointment, or other) is typical for any planned absenced in the US.
holy shit you barbarians.
It’s the smartest option.
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SILENCE, PEASANT!
You will now work Saturday as well!
I used to like to work Saturday at my old job. It was overtime pay. Then my provincial government helped corporations and made it so that overtime didn’t start until 48 hours a week, killing the incentive to work Saturdays.
Open for business? More like open for exploit, nepotism and cronyism, amirite?
Is that you, Rowan, manager of TechTown?
Part of me thinks Wednesday. I wouldn’t be surprised to see flex schedules more common in a 4 day work week world
I also vote Monday. Seems to be easier to get back to work after a Monday holiday vs a Friday holiday.
Wednesday. Why work for 4 days straight when you could take a break in the middle
IMO I’d take the 3 day break every time. Being able to take the kids to their grandparents for a 3 day weekend, or stay another day on a weekend trip sounds too convenient to pass up.
Crazy thought, but what if it differed by industry? Something like blue collar jobs get Monday off, white collar gets Friday off. That way office workers can for example more easily stay home to get their cable serviced and plumbers can more easily meet with a mortgage agent. Obviously because of overlap it’s not perfect (office workers can’t meet with mortgage agent, plumbers can’t get their cable serviced), but there’s a huge issue currently with people working 9-5 M-F being unable to access services that are also only available 9-5 M-F, so this would at least distribute things a little more. (This kind of thing already exists for some industries like restaurants, where W-Su workweeks are common)
I’m on board with the complementarity objective, but dividing society by collar color is a means for distributing things less. Time barriers reinforce worker segmentation by industry. Different rituals and religious traditions evolve on either side, and Romeo and Juliet are lost in their respective crowds. Convinced their problem is too much work, Four Day Workweek Jesus arrives to champion a revolution towards a three day week, and Four Day Workweek Satan points out that arranging and organizing other people’s lives (for free!) has always been in support of the same capitalists that the bleeding heart Christians seem so upset about.
I’m imagining a white color and blue color worker couple each having an entire day to themselves in a week. Sounds like heaven, and the ideal relationship. I’m 100% onboard.
realistically, if we move to a four-day world week it won’t be the same four days for everyone
this, I rather it not be the same 4 days for everyone so people actually can get things done instead of half the services close the same time you leave work
i will probably die of old age by the time we get a 4 day work week (im early 20s)
This entirely depends on the company and/or the type of work you do. My manager is considering implementing it after I proposed it for our team. That was only a few days ago so we’ll see where it goes.
UK majority of the bank holidays are on a Monday, so Fridays would be nice as otherwise you’d lose them and what would become long weekends now.
UK we are seeing a very slow shift to 4 day weeks for more privileged jobs, I work with two people who both have Fridays off as it’s an actual thing you can apply for at my employer.
While the Tories stopped councils from offering 4 day weeks to employees, it’s got to be coming back, further spreading its availability.
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