• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 hours ago

    Can someone confirm this is real? I refuse to watch this piece of shit any more than I have to.

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      Hillary won the popular vote, so the “you’re too misogynistic to elect a woman” take does not have a basis in reality. Also, you might have noticed that AOC is filling football stadiums in red states just by being willing to speak.

      Kamala lost because people got poorer for four years under Biden and she very publicly affirmed she’d change nothing about his policies. Hell, she didn’t even put a platform on her website until two weeks before the election. Kamala was a legitimately bad candidate.

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        The GOP didn’t update their platform since, like, 2015, unless you count Project 2025, which Trump claimed to know nothing about. In the 2020 election, it still referenced running against Obama.

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        Kamala lost because people got poorer for four years under Biden and she very publicly affirmed she’d change nothing about his policies.

        Well I think the problem is people perceived others as getting poorer or worse off but the economy was humming just fine and unemployment reached record low numbers iirc.

        Like, in general terms, people did not get poorer for four years under Biden - but if that’s what people think, regardless of the actual truth, that’s what they’ll act on.

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          Even worse, the perceived suffering was largely because inflations… caused by Trump’s Tariffs and indiscriminate covid spending (essentially supply side, handing out money to businesses big enough to handle the paperwork vs demand side)

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        This among many other reasons is why I want Kamala to leave the governorship of California well enough alone. I don’t want her coming here and applying her Republican pandering to the state.

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        She also had a lot of whispering in her ear about how to run a campaign, including from Joe Biden who still thinks he would have won. That’s also partly the reason she started stronger then diluted her platform.

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        If Hillary or Kamala had been men they would have won. If Kamala had been white I don’t think that would have been enough to get her elected.

        But if Kamala had more than a hundred days to campaign, then she might have had a fair shot.

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          If Hillary or Kamala had been men they would have won.

          Hillary won the popular vote, so arguing for misogyny in her case isn’t a reasonable argument. As for Kamala, no. She’d have lost if she had a penis too. Her campaign was a comedy of errors and she knew it. She was even caught on hot mic once expressing worry about her campaign’s ability to connect with young men. (Admittedly a tough thing to accomplish when you tell people you won’t change anything and young men are struggling economically and lack access to basic necessities in your country.)

          The only way the Dems had a shot here was to hold a primary and actually select a seasoned, authentic candidate. Instead, they rigged it like they always do and just happened to pick someone extremely weak.

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            The fact that she won the popular vote but lost the election proves my point. All the places she marginally lost in would very likely have swung to marginally won if she wasn’t a woman. The hate we see rampant today was rampant then too, it just hadn’t been given a voice or a face yet.

            That’s how the Republicans won that election, they realized there was just enough hate in just the right places to swing it in their favor. They just had to fan the flames.

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              The fact that she won the popular vote but lost the election proves my point.

              No, it really doesn’t.

              That’s how the Republicans won that election, they realized there was just enough hate in just the right places to swing it in their favor.

              Hillary just ignoring the Rust Belt during her campaign had nothing to do with it. Totally.

              The lesson here isn’t that there’s too much hate in America. It’s that the Democrats really need to stop rigging primaries for weak candidates. Their focus needs to be on the economy and the poor, not propping up people’s egos.

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                I never said she was a great candidate, just that if she had been the same candidate, but male, those margins would have swung her way. Yes, even given the exact same campaign and mistakes.

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                  I never said she was a great candidate, just that if she had been the same candidate, but male, those margins would have swung her way.

                  No. Absolutely not. That they had to rig a primary for her to even get the nomination in the first place demonstrates that your reasoning is incorrect.

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            Or just break from the skeleton, call for an immediate end to the genocide of Palestinians, and keep calling the right-wingers weird, obsessive ghouls.

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    Trump is one of those guys you find on one of those “lol shit Americans say” videos where someone approaches “random” people on the street to ask them history or geography questions.

    Except he’s your president, and because your country is “nice” enough to have the world exchange currency we all have to suffer for it.

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      His cabal of gamification experts discovered that the flaw in the Electoral college system could be exploited IF they could find a common denominator for all the low population areas with disproportionately high representation in the EC. Turns out it’s hate. Who’d have thought.

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        That’s a strategy as old as Reconstruction, utilizing an antidemocratic compromise baked into the Constitution by slavers who didn’t want the anti-slavery popular vote to have the power to take away their chattel. The brain trust behind Trump’s win aren’t especially clever. They’re just the latest schmucks to be soulless and hollow enough to fully embrace that hate-filled lowest common denominator, half a century after the last bunch finally got pushed out of power.

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      In 2016, I’d have argued he isn’t.

      But now, after what we’ve seen out of America since, he is absolutely representative of who we are at our core in this country. Just wait until the supply chain breaks down from tariffs and people start to see empty shelves. You’re REALLY going to see who the American people are then.

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    Back before the election, Trump spoke about the fictional character Hannibal Lecter, at least twice, like he was a real person. Trump was never cognitively there!

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      He kept talking about Hannibal Lecter because someone mentioned asylum for immigrants, and the only “asylum” he knows is an insane asylum.

      So he started talking about Hannibal Lecter every time he mentioned immigrants, equating them with insane cannibals who want to eat you.

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      Before DJT had symptoms of his father’s Alzheimer’s, which is a decade since now since it has shown on TV, he was even back then, how he calls it, a low IQ individual. And a racist

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      Sleepy Joe was very publicly cognitively impaired for years. I don’t think “our guy is as bad as their guy” is a good point to make on this one.

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        I don’t remember him saying things like “Mattel is a country”. I remember him agreeing to do a debate while sick, which was stupid.

        I think the difference between a very bad day and mentally impaired is a lot wider than you speculate.

        That said I agree with you only because he DID step back from the race, and had he done that A LOT FUCKING EARLIER then Kamala might have been able to dodge the bus she got thrown under.

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            You can tell this wasn’t mental illness because he didn’t immediately fire the secretary of health and human services after and replace him with RFK.

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              Oh absolutely, Im just already tired of people pretending he didn’t say stupid shit all the time, especially near the end when the dementia was obvious

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    No shit, that’s why he signs whatever they put in front of him, and project 2025 has been followed almost to a T. He doesn’t give a crap about anything in project 2025. But he’s mentally in lala land and they’ve been hiding his declining health for a while.

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    My brother in law, without skipping a beat: “obviously he meant Micronesia”

    My reply, apparently not enough to get a response: “So you’re okay with a president who’s so cognitively vacant he can’t tell the difference between two very different sounding words?”

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    Man thought the Barbie movie was a documentary and is ready to nuke the country Mattel for making a woke movie in their country.