Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr
I feel like the days of pearl clutching over profanity are on their way out. There is always a time and a place for it, but I grew up hearing “fuck” come out of my drunken relatives every other word. My parents didn’t say it, and they didn’t let me say it, but the only real weight the word ever had was that it was cool and exclusive to adults.
One of the biggest culture shocks I had when moving from the US to Canada was how much more laid back everyone is up here over profanity in general. Almost everyone uses it, very few people (save for maybe the elderly) get uppity when they hear it, and I’ve heard it used freely on FM radio many times. I still think it’s trashy to fly a FUCK TRUDEAU flag or decal on your car for everyone to see, but nobodies up here clutching pearls. They just think you’re a dick.
Not sure why it’s still such a big deal in many parts of the US.
What’s interesting is, traditionally in language, once forbidden words got ran out, there were still other bad words left to enter the lexicon. “Damn” used to be a genuine curse. My grandfather survived WWII and proudly told be people of all the bombs he dropped, he never dropped the F-bomb.
What’s next? There’s no new forbidden words. Nothing left in the back of the store. Our ability to run through words outpaced our ability to make bad ones.
Words become more acceptable over time. In centuries past calling someone a devil or saying that they should go to hell would have been deeply offensive. Today these insults are so mild that even schoolchildren say them to each other. Even twenty years ago the word “fuck” was viewed with nearly as much taboo as racial slurs. Now, it’s a very common word that people will throw around in a casual context.
Even the word n****r (means “black person”) and its non-hard-R variant are starting to lose their offensiveness. In African-American Vernacular it has taken on a variety of inoffensive meanings. It is now only offensive in certain contexts while fifty years ago it was pretty much offensive in all contents.
At the same time, new words emerge and get labelled profane. For example, the word t****y (means “transgender”) would not have meant anything twenty years ago, and now it’s one of the most offensive words in the English dictionary. Similar story with the word f****t (means “homosexual”).
what the fuck is t****y
It’s a word also used to refer to a car transmission.
Or the landing of a jump.
Being a pirate means taking from assholes who do not deserve it. If you take from anyone you’re an asshole yourself.
I pirate AAA games because they do not deserve my money, as the poor gameplay vallue doesn’t exceed 2 hours. I pay for indie games because they deliver, it’s worth my money.
I used to be in the navy, went on deployment to Somalia several times to hunt pirates. I deeply regret it. Because althoug they have no choice and do what they do because of what us western countries did to them, they do horrible things to others who do not deserve it. But in the end we as a rich western society are the cause for their despair. So we are responsible for what they are forced to do to others. I ended up with PTSD.
You can be a pirate with principles. Especially when mega corps and billionaires are forcing society into submission, forcing people to work to just to survive and/or force people to be someone they are not.
Fight the oppression. Piracy isn’t a crime, it’s symptom of a crime. Also, these days you do not own the media you purchase. It’s not theft when you steal something which you cannot own it when you purchase it.
You can be a pirate with principles.
On the topic, what was the reasoning of the Houthis attacks on the red sea shipping lanes?
It was because they are totally crazy deranged terrorist villains from an 80s action movie right?..or like monomaniacal greed right?
…wait hold on… checks notes … are we the badies?
shakes cobwebs out of head
Wait no, that can’t be right if we were the badies it would be bad like really bad after all the shit we have done claiming we were righteous about it… like oh no, no no no no I am gonna just stop thinking about it ok?
I wasn’t there during those attacks, I left service a while ago, I wa only there because of the Somali pirates.
Things aren’t black and white. There are no good sides, only different grades of bad when it comes to armed conflict in the middle east. People are driven to extremism due to oppression, hunger, misery, etc and become bad themselves by disbanding human dignity. Who is to blame?
I know I do not stand for fighting pirates in Somalia. Although I got PTSD due to what I saw them doing, which head horrible. The whole situation is fucked up, it’s not onto me to judge or intervene. We as the west are partially responsible, I don’t see fighting the problems we created with violence as a solution, only as fighting symptoms without focusing on the cause.
The Houthis attacks are also a product of a greater problem. Yemen is a giant mess for many years with countless victims. We don’t care so just leave everyone to deal with it themselves. We only start to care when it harms our trade routes. And we don’t help Yemen and it’s people to solve their war, we fight a symptom so our trade routes are secure.
It’s the dame with piracy in general. There’s piracy all over the world. The Somali pirates are mild compared to others, like on the African west coast or near Indonesia. But we only care about piracy when it harms us, like our trade routes.
You become super rich at a cost. Not by honesty. There are always others who suffer. We, the rich west (EU, Brittain, US, but also Russia, India, China etc.) enjoy enormous amounts of luxury, but developing countries are paying the cost for that.
We claim we have morals and are more civilized than others. We condemn Russia for their war crimes everywhere for example. Yet we show we are just as bad by supporting the worst war crimes of this century (by far) by continuing to support Israel.
I rolled into service due to a financial crisis and my own issues (autism, never recognized so never finished school, kicked out by my parents, nearly ended up on the streets because I couldn’t get work, so I enlisted) and becasue I couldn’t handle change that well (autism) I stayed and supported a system I oppose.
I now know better and fight for human rights, against mega corps, for LGBTQAI+ rights, against fascism, racism, nazism and against fake news and propaganda (and anything that goes against my believes). It kills me, as I feel helpless but doing nothing kills me even more.
Swear words are ok in my house. Slurs are not ok ever
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True and fantastic (especially if your community/family are/were hateful bigots!), but one should still strive not to be a potty-mouth. It’s crude and unbecoming, idk, at least to me. It’s the equivalent of being a bit stinky (or very, depending on how much one swears) IMO: sure, it might not be immoral, whatever, but you could make the smallest of efforts and not offend my senses… 🤷
Look me in the eyes and tell me you don’t judge people who wear red hats.
That’s different: judging people for their actions, not who they are.
But then you wouldn’t be judging the person solely for wearing a red hat, but for what the red hat implies, no?
IDC; I am judging them.
A couple of nights ago I was in the car with my 8 year old daughter and Killing In The Name Of by Rage Against the Machine came on… my instinct was to skip to the next song, but then I thought “No, this is a song she needs to hear” because if she has questions she knows that she can ask.
A couple of songs later, it was Closer by NIN… I immediately skipped to the next song.
My kid doesn’t speak English, he is 5 (and Dutch), one day in the car I was playing “Pennywise - Fuck authority”. He said that the man said fuck. Even if you’re 5 and don’t speak English you understand that the word fuck is a swearword.
Hahaha, now next time you tell her to clean her room or something, she’ll say “fuck you, I won’t do what you tell me!”
Seriously, though, I think you made the right choice. Good on you, and it sounds like you’ve got good music tastes!
“fuck you I won’t do what you told me”
Man… Always gets the blood boiling! Such a good song!
Dad, is it true that "Those who work forces are the same who burn crosses?
And why would he “just kill a man?”
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Oh no! Stinkfist came on!
The ol’ Stinkfist got some new exposure via Alien Earth’s credits. A wiley crew, that Noah Hawley & team.
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He fits every single definition of the Antichrist with little reaching.
Down to the head wound and the mark of the best upon their forehead.
Asking if people could spot the antichrist has always seemed paradoxical to me. Isn’t the antichrist’s defining thing that he will deceive people into following him? Lost cause imo
The goal of every single politician, sales person, [so many blanks] is to deceive.
The lesson in the Bible is to listen carefully, watch his actual actions.
I will insult people for how they dress, specifically people who were clothes with Confederate flag shirts. I once saw someone with a confederate flag shirt that said “Try burning this one” my grandmother saw me staring and told me no. Yes I was working out the logistics of how to set someone on fire, I took the shirt as a challenge.
shouldnt u be looking for the water chip? the vault really needs it
Oh no! The evil people have all the commercially available flame throwers!
Flame thrower? Don’t need that just a bottle of lighter fluid, a Bic, and a can of hairspray will do the trick. We call it the hick bee annihilator, my uncle nearly burnt down the garage when I was 2.
… honestly, I don’t think anyone has ever explicitly said to me (especially growing up) to not use slurs - you just don’t use them bcs they obviously harm people, basic empathy & stuff (if the greed of just living in a better society isn’t enough).
… but there sure have been a fucktone of folk telling me not to use some arbitrary “bad words” they deemed vulgar. No logical reason given, just random societal oppression.
I had an aunt Julia growing up and my parents sat me down when I was four or five and they heard me calling her aunt Ju to explain that “Jew” wasn’t inherently a slur, but it could be offensive to people if I just shouted it randomly after my aunt. Based on that, I suspect they would have talked to me about slurs if it had come up, but I never used them.
I did once talk to my grandmother at around age eleven about seeing a huge Afro and she asked if I meant the person or the hairstyle. I complained to my mom about her being racist and she set me straight. Both of my my grandparents taught at colleges in the greater Boston area around the time they were integrated and my grandmother insisted on renting a room in their house out to black students who couldn’t get housing otherwise (for only the cost of meals) throughout my mom’s whole childhood and ended friendships with people who had a problem with it. She was just from another time and didn’t consider “Afro” to be an offensive term, probably because she was involved in civil rights through the seventies, when that was used by lots of black groups as a term of empowerment
Thx for sharing, that was a lovely story/slice of life.
They’re the no-no word because someone used them to hurt someone else.
I don’t know what “removed” means, I assume it’s black in spanish or something, it doesn’t make sense on it’s own.
It’s just a word that people used to hurt other people, so we can’t use them.
Literally, “we can’t have nice things” applied to word, although, whatever that word means, I guess we have other words that mean black so, ok, whatever, we still have plenty of other 6 letter words so “meh”.Would be nice if people stopped being such shitheads and using group dominance to subjugate other groups.
I think instead of attacking words, we should attack the mechanic behind them ? If the slur comes out it’s already too late, the dominance play has already infected them.
It has to be defused before they even say it. Find why people are being so shit, it’s not just a reaction, it’s not the word itself making them do it.
There a reason why they become nasty slur-spewing goblins.
Sure, and it’s not like there arent any efforts towards that.
But since hate words do exist we don’t use them in order to not empower further the mechanics/shitheads that do use/promote them.
Why isn’t this solved already ?
Why does it persist ?
Do the people who proclaim to be doing something about it gain something for it persisting so it never get actually solved ?
I mean, even as I figure out what they’re for and how they’re being used, surely this has been going on for centuries if not millennia.
So why is that shit still even around ?
You’d think we’d have it figured out by now, dealt with and ready when the next duckface tries that crap.
But I guess not…
Nice sentiment, but where shitpost?
Thank you <3
I havent had an excuse to post this yet
You came for the circle jerks but til this stable is full you only get horseshoe handies.
None of these are shitposts. These are all memes.
Do de have a im14andthisisdeep equivalent community on Lemmy?
You best start believing in lemmy shit posts, you’re in one.
Praise be!
My grandparents on my dad’s side used to make jokes that were funny when I was a kid, more concerning when I got older, and especially concerning as their dementia set in and they began outright stating people’s races in the jokes. In the years since their passing, it’s made me wonder what their beliefs on racism were, even though they raised me to never judge anyone by their race and that race will usually be a factor in how people are treated in the real world but should never be a factor in my personal interactions with anyone.
But those jokes had been weighing kinda heavy on me in recent years. I know they had dementia, but was this possibly at the core of their beliefs?
I recently heard a story, unprompted, from a family member who was present when my dad was in high school or college, in the '70s, and made an off-color joke . Apparently my dad said that a car with a poorly done paint job “looked like a Mexican car.” Without missing a beat, my grandmother punched my dad in the jaw with a right hook and yelled, “WE DO NOT MAKE DEROGATORY JOKES ABOUT PEOPLE FOR THEIR RACE!” My grandmother was always known for how passive, playful, and gentle she was, especially with her kids.
Turns out grandma was not only adamant about race sensitivity, she was kinda a badass. And the jokes I thought were possibly racist were truly homophone humor about regional dialects and not about people’s nationality.
You know, let us be honest for five minutes.
Psychology has shown that we have biases against anyone who doesn’t look like us. It’s just survival 101 from not so ancient times.
So maybe your parents had theses biases, unconsciently. Maybe even, they have been raised in a society which was racist, by definition. If they have lived anytime before the eighties, things were really rough (not that it’s not right now, but it was something else…)
Now, let’s just say that at their core, they were racist. So what ? Is it really important ? They have shown you how to behave, what is right and what is not. They have worked to better themselves, so that is the only thing that should matter.
Because, in the grand scheme of things, your parents would have told you from age two : do not shit in your pants, and they would have done the same. With dementia, maybe at some point they even forgot that one rule so… Being racist is excusable, because -and I’m sorry- they were not themselves in their final hours.
I appreciate and understand your perspective, but I want to clarify some context:
This was my dad’s mom, so my grandparents. Had they been my parents and I’d known them at the age at which they raised me, then I’d immediately know how they raised their kids. But since this was my grandmother who raised my dad, it left me wondering what kind of parents my dad had. Was my dad a non-judgmental person in spite of his parents?
And the answer was, “no.” He learned to cast aside prejudices from my grandmother’s sick right-cross. It was mostly that kind of revelation that I needed to feel my catharsis.
(Added context: my dad is dead and I never heard that story from him. He died before my grandmother did, so I never got the opportunity to ask him about what her views on race were when he was a child.)
Many golden age pirates were actually kind of like that
Big multiethnic crews. Lots of gayness, transgressive gender identities, liberatory politics. It was extremely punk, but with very very slightly better music and substantially worse booze.
Any fun historical sources you can recommend?
Graeber really gets unto the mess of it all in ‘pirate enlightenment: the real libertalia’
If you want something much less complicated and academic, i think the podcast ‘cool people who did cool stuff’ has a few episodes on it.
Thanks for the answer! And I love Margaret, good podcast :3
Theres some more crunchy stuff i remember but i can’t think of where i read it, sorry. The academic stuff all kind of blurs. Except for a few who could serioudly wrote like Graeber and Foucault.
My daughter said “oh shit” as her first curse word. Seems appropriate for the times
