There’s actually a movie called Look Who’s Back, where Hitler is transported to the modern day, and at the end of the film, he’s gaining political momentum, because it turns out that while the Nazis were driven out of power, their ideology was allowed to continue.
It really is the case that there are a lot of people out there that like Nazi ideology, but just don’t like to be associated with the endgame of their ideology.
I read something ages ago, some study or something, not sure how legit, and it basically came to the conclusion that the only way to stop people from liking and associating with Nazi ideology is to not expose them to it, because there are some people that will like it if exposed, and it can’t really be stopped.
Culling the herd seems to be the tried and true method.
While Ukraine is not anywhere near the scale of WWII, they’re hardly isolated. While the hot battlefield is geographically isolated, the logistical and economic battlefields deeply involve many countries around the world, including NATO countries, China, and Iran. It’s much bigger than a proxy war.
I’m not even sure how well that will work now with the internet.
I don’t follow.
Well, you can’t just cull for the sake of culling, who do you cull? So you need something like a war to occur, but the internet will just keep radicalizing people at an increasing rate even as they get culled.
Edit: Like Russia is being culled right now, but that doesn’t deter the growth elsewhere.
WW2 we culled the extremists, same with the US civil war.
So yes, I am suggesting war is the only answer to Fascism.
I don’t think any other option would have worked for Japan, Italy and Germany either.
We’re never going to see a war like WW2 again, only isolated things like Russia and Ukraine, and Israel and Palestine.
War would become nuclear and destroy everyone if something like WW2 happened again and wouldn’t really wipe it out, it’d wipe everyone out, and let it thrive in the now remaining isolated pockets.
So there will only be isolated wars but that doesn’t outpace it’s growth worldwide.
I was wondering who loomer reminded me of. Fits perfectly.
It’s like racism, to them being called a racist is more offensive than their racist actions. They want to be racist Nazis, but they just don’t want us to call them that
Thats because they’ve been conditioned to view themselves as the victim. When you point out that they are doing harm to others it really fucks with their entire sense of self and they get defensive.
This is also why they need to hear the truth. We cannot keep coddling these snowflakes just because it makes them feel more comfortable and gives them a false sense of security.
Imagine it like you’re meeting a kid who has been homeschooled and sheltered from the outside world for their entire lives. They often say and believe things that don’t line up with reality because their view on the outside world has relied only on what their parents were willing to tell them.
The gradual shift from slant to widespread gaslighting and narrative control that we’re all seeing in most American news and media in 2025, is just a glimpse into what the right have been experiencing for decades. We view it as alarming now, but imagine how you’ll feel after a few years.
After a while it just becomes the normal/default. Imagine generations growing up dependent on this shit to keep them informed about the rest of the world. They’re not going to be happy about hearing the truth, but they need to hear it. All you can and should do is state facts, and ignore any attempts to turn every conversation into a Fox News vs CNN debate.
If they continue to escalate, just disengage like you would a child throwing a tantrum. If/when they’re ready to calm down and speak rationally, then repeat. Stick to facts. Present evidence if they’re willing to listen. Do not let them twist the narrative or pivot to a different subject in order to distract. At the end of the day, they have no evidence to back up the things they say. If they can’t present their evidence, then the conversation is over.
If they still want to be angry and blame someone, tell them they should take it up with the abusive patriarchal oligarchs who manipulated them and distorted their reality in order to control them.
A growing number of people are getting really comfortable with the idea of being literal Nazis.
It’s not even an allegiance to “National Socialism” or the NSDAP, per se.
Some people are aroused by the prospect of telling people, with impunity, that they or their group are in charge of everything forever and everyone has to applaud it on pain of torture and death.
They have a perverse, sometimes sexual, stimulation at the prospect of threatening, abusing, and submitting people to their doctrine of what they unilaterally deem to be the natural order of things.
Simply put, they feed, at every level, on the pain and misery they cause.
Naziism is just an ideology that appeals to some common instincts, which becomes an issue when enough of them are in precarity that they warm up to making the ideas policy.
It doesn’t make for a very good state. Incompetence and nepotism rises to the top. Data driven science is tossed aside for ideology-driven rhetoric. Officials govern on vibes resulting in famine, plague and war. Also the country turns into the very kind of shithole it accuses other nations of being.
Eventually, you have bombers from rival countries blocking the the sun over the capitol. International tribunals exercise judgement and enforce their law, since the nazis failed to provide rule of law to their own. Children pick up pieces of the trainwreck.
And we learn (or fail to learn) once again why we don’t let the fascist autocrats take over, even when they are very, very rich.
We in the US have a choice: clean up the mess early, or let China clean it up for us. And China will make us jolly sorry if we make them clean it up. We’ll be their buggery bitch for a century or two at least.
Well, not like it changed from before ww2. Well, maybe it did for the next 2 weeks.
That’s not true at all. For roughly 70 years, being fully fascist was very much a fringe thing that you’d be shunned by normal people for. Even the most callous paleoconservatives would categorically shun any Nazi or other openly fascist person.
Then decades of gradual and accelerating rightward drifting of the Overton Window (for which the Democrats’ ineptitude as the SUPPOSED opposition party bear a lot of the responsibility) and normalization of outright lying as a political strategy inevitably led to a fascist demagogue like the Mango Mussolini and now fascism is the new mainstream “conservatism”.
It’s also an education problem. Instead of “yay we’re the good guys, we beat the bad guys”, there should have been more understanding of how the bad guys got so bad, and why the USA always had the potential to go down the same road. But if you’re looking at it on a superficial level, you can think you’re automatically safe from that, just because you have different names, different locations, different flags. And because you’re the good guys.
I think a big part of it is that too much time has passed since the last bunch were dealt with. Most people who remember that are dead now.
See also polio survivors and the rise of antivaxxers
Don’t forget the ACLU protecting Illinois Nazi hate speech.
Illinois nazis? I hate Illinois nazis.
The showwriters for The Boys had to get this explicit for right-wingers to get the picture.
And they still didn’t get it.
Stop making my show about an alt-right villain with a god complex polical libruls
“We are like Homelander, not the nazi lady!”
Breakfast loyalty
Can relate.
At this point sarcasm does not work. It just makes them think you agree.
This is the unfortunate truth. We have to address it directly, sarcasm does not do it. They don’t have the self awareness for sarcasm to work.
This. None of them caught the obvious Stormfront name, nor can they see that homelander and his fans are analogous to Trump and his supporters.
In the spinoff Gen V, they even have
spoiler
A fascist movement of supes that wants to subjugate humanity under the slogan “Make America Super Again”
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I’m 100% sure they think Homelander represents out of control leftists.
They think Homelander is the good guy. I’m not fucking kidding
I haven’t even seen the show and that “Homelander is not the good-guy” is literally all I know about it!
He blows up a plane in like the first ever episode or something. They make it VERY obvious he is the bad guy from the start. It’s impossible not to understand that and yet
I started rewatching it recently (I haven’t seen the newer seasons). There is an argument that that plane was an accident. He lasered the hijacker and destroyed the controls. At minimum, it’s incredibly careless though, and he’s still at fault for it and for not really giving a shit about the people on the plane. It’s possible it’s on purpose, but they don’t make it explicit that he’s evil then. Only that he’s selfish.
The plane with the senator though? Yeah, he did that on his own on purpose.
and yet indeed
All I know is that he drinks boob milk.
Homelander is their new punisher… except homelander is a bad guy.
I mean, The Punisher is also a bad guy, and The Punisher would be the first person to point that The Punisher is a bad guy.
no, they would think homlander is good and trying to stop out of control leftists.
your claimed 100% certainty is hyperbolic and outright laughable
Well when the education system of the US essentially teaches:
- Nazi bad because they hated Jews. That’s it. Don’t look at why they chose Jews as a target to scapegoat societies material problems. Don’t look at how closely connected fascism is to the interests of capital. And definitely equate them with socialism because they had that word in their name. Ignore the fact they put Marxist in concentration camps first.
And then teach:
- Stalin bad because he was a “authoritarian” and purposely starved his people while eating all the wheat with a big spoon. This is all that socialism ever is. It’s just when one guy has all the power. Don’t look up what “Soviets” actually were. Definitely don’t teach about the country that was most responsible for stopping and defeating the Nazis. It was all just our big bomb we dropped on a completely different country that was entirely needed and not an unnecessary show of force to the USSR.
Its easy to manipulate “educated” people to working against their own interests.
I would argue that the USSR is only the most responsible when looking at it through the loss of human life. It seems likely they would have never made it to Berlin without lend-lease. No one knows if the Germans could have regrouped and done better without the aid to the USSR, maybe the same number would have died, just in different locations. But, most of the USSR’s ability to move material around was due to the allies supplying them with logistics vehicles, both trucks, and railroads/engines/RR cars.
Is that what this is a screenshot from? I thought this was that journalist who’s married to the state legislator in Idaho. I want to say Susan in the evening? Not her?
Unrelated, but this is my brother’s favorite quote.
Alas, this doesn’t only apply to republicans. You’d be surprised how much everyday people casually believe in eugenics/phrenology/other nazi related pseudo-science.
You are sre 100% correct. And btw, it’s related.
Yeah i should stop overusing that word
In regards to eugenics, some may have some parts where they disagree on the definition of terms. I’m not talking about people believing Idiocracy was right on the premise,nor those who say there should be licenses to be a parent. Those are both eugenics or eugenics lite imo.
However, you can get genetic testing to see if your child might have a debilitating condition. Now first to lay out my … Bias? I don’t plan to have kids and therefore don’t feel pressured to have a firm opinion on genetic testing. I do support abortion rights. However, some may define choosing to abort because you learn your child may have a debilitating disease or a very painful life to be eugenics, while others may not agree.
There’s also people who believe in gene editing before birth, like the (disgraced iirc) Chinese scientist who tried to use CRISPR to prevent AIDS transferring from mother to daughter (nevermind the fact we have drugs to do that anyway). I think broadly speaking editing gene sequences could be considered eugenics, but some may disagree.
What is eugenics called if you remove the authoritarian neutering/killing parts?
Ask Iceland. They have a strict controls inplace to prevent inbreeding in their limited population.
Iceland is more like anti eugenics. They are controlling against any particular trait occurring.
And when pressed: “I was just joking!”
Like that guy at a party who continually “jokes” about butt sex to every girl he meets.
More like “They don’t like what I have to say, but they’re not actually listening because they love the words Nazi and fascist.”
if the republican party was a cereal, it’d be Oops, all nazis!
You spend eighty years rehabilitating nazis to fight socialism, you get nazis and no socialism.
As the saying goes,
Not all Republicans are nazis, but all nazis are Republican.
In recent years, they are in leadership positions more and more often.
So you have to dig your head further and further into the sand to still call yourself a Republican without being a nazi. At a certain point, which I’d say is in the past, you’ve got yourself a nazi bar. Because even when you’re not a nazi, if you ally with them, you may as well be.
Like how Mussolini wasn’t a nazi and Franco wasn’t a nazi.
The worst part is that stormfront doesn’t even look Aryan lol
Neither did Hitler. The most ardent nazis i see online are indian and hispanic.
Is that really “the worst part”…
Yeah. Even homelander looks a little bit more aryan
well neither did Hitler or pretty much anyone else at the top.
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Yeah, it’s a made up thing that never happened. also it literally means Iranian, so… fucking confusing today that Hitler made up a fanfic race for a language group that were not very district from all other neighboring people that hinged on them being Iranian somehow.
Also, Graham Platner right now.
Fuck me. Look at your history you have a hard-on for that dude.
Oh, I’m sorry if I keep commenting on the breaking news story that a senate candidate that has been plastered all over Lemmy recently has a nazi tattoo. Clearly that’s a me issue.
*had, but that still doesn’t keep me from being sus
It was a skull and crossbones. That’s a very generic symbol. Hell, it’s being used all over the world right now as a part of anti-government protests. Your average American probably most associates it with pirates. I sure do, even knowing that the Nazis used it as well.
Regardless, as soon as he was told about it the one possible meaning, he got the tattoo covered over with something else. Find something of substance, like him actually saying anything anti-semitic.
That’s a very generic symbol.
It’s literally the Totenkopf symbol used in the “Are We the Baddies?” skit. It’s a specifically nazi variant of a skull-and-crossbones. C’mon, you can’t really blame people for thinking that’s a bit sus for someone running for political office.
Someone else mentioned that if you were at a Croatian tattoo parlor that had a totenkopf on the wall, and you didn’t know what that was, there were definitely some other images on that wall that probably would’ve given you a clue
Accurate username.
The bad thing is that they are right about 50% of MAGA … the other 50% of MAGA dont mind using the word Nazi.
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unpopular opinion; I believe in the value of definitions of words. I’m not republican (shouldn’t matter) but by bending definitions of words like “nazi” - you’re diminishing the people who went through the atrocities of WW2
Kind of similar to how you shouldn’t say “rape” for something that isn’t. in effect you’re diminishing rape victims
“nazi” literally means a member of the far-right National Socialist German Workers’ Party. Fascist pigs? No doubt. Just don’t change history…
Language evolves. Many words have roots in other words with similar meanings.
The word Nazi has evolved to describe people who in a group together think they are better as the rest and deserve to punish them for existing since a long time ago.It doesn’t matter if you put your ding in the dong, the damage you cause is the same.
And I feel like anyone making arguments like this has already assaulted and thinks something like “ehh wasn’t rapping so can’t be too bad, no?” while being a human disgrace…
Your opinion isn’t unpopular, it is objectively wrong.
prescriptivists are lingual nazis
This is a lot of text for the distinction between Nazi and neo Nazi. Neo Nazis commit atrocities, murders within their limited capabilities. They are (on some level) the same.
It is an unpopular opinion because many of them display swastikas and other Nazi symbols, praise Hitler, uphold the same supremacist beliefs, and have way too much in common with the Nazis. So calling them Nazis is accurate. It’s not really bending the definition.
Are said republicans members of the national socialist german workers part? No.
If anything - this minority of republicans you are speaking of should be called “neo-nazi”.
must say I hit a nerve here, hence unpopular opinion. funny how automatically ppl assume I have an hidden agenda
Most people with sense are going to disagree with a stupid opinion.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, we call it a duck, whether it’s native to Europe or America.
And, let’s be real here while we’re at it nitpicking statements, it’s most definitely not just a ‘minority’ of republicans anymore.
Are neo nazis not a subset of nazis? If not, how would you refer to the grouping of both ww2 German nazis and neo nazis who share many beliefs and symbols? I don’t see a good reason why that group can’t just be called nazis.
These kinds of discussions are basically never made in good faith and are reminiscent of the last (good) Wolfenstein game where chuds were losing their mind because “the KKK and the nazis would never have worked together!” and so forth.
At best you are looking at someone being overly pedantic because their entire sense of self worth is to be “technically correct” and it boils down to “They weren’t registered with the party in 1942” and so forth.
More often it becomes chuds who overly fixate on “the Z stance for Socialism!” because they know they are evil mother fuckers but want to spread the hate around.
must say I hit a nerve here, hence unpopular opinion.
Not really. Its just a stupid opinion.
If anything - this minority of republicans you are speaking of should be called “neo-nazi”.
“Neo” = “New”.
So still a Nazi, just newer. Your complaint is we don’t specify that the modernized Nazis are modernized by name. That is what “neo” means. Modernized or revived.
So let’s recap - your complaint is that the current batch is not specifically called ‘new’.
Its not that your opinion is unpopular, its that your opinion is just really fucking stupid.
Edit: It would seem I am the one who struck a nerve, for pointing out how incredibly stupid it is to specify that these people are, in fact, not 90yr old former members of the Nazi party in Germany.
“They’re not Nazis unless they’re from the Nazi regime of Germany. Otherwise they’re just sparkling Fascists.” -you.
But then, by your own logic, we can’t call them Fascists either, since that term was made to describe Italian Authoritarianism.
Fascism describes the rhetoric used to prop up autocracy. It’s the propaganda portion, and leads to genocide campaigns and wars.
Mussolini might have developed fascism so it was admired by industrialists who wanted to control the masses, but it wasn’t his alone.
The US is nothing like Nazi Germany, the Nazi concentration camps had trains.
If it quacks like a duck…
Seems like your discomfort is showing. Might want to tuck that back in.
We have people in power who explicitly want to exterminate minorities (see those leaked text messages) and we have a sizeable population willing to trust and empower those people. It’s not bending the definition to call them Nazis.
They didn’t build Auschwitz the day after Hitler got appointed chancellor. They built up to it. I don’t know how you can look at a government that’s literally building and populating concentration camps with people who haven’t broken the law and clutch pearls about calling them Nazis until they scale up sufficiently. The best thing you can honestly call them is proto-nazis.
Good Samaritan
Lesbian
Barbarian
Plenty of words we now use today started out referring to people in a specific time and place.
Further, what’s the use of remembering the horrors of the Nazis if we don’t recognize the early warning signs of those same horrors today? The “National Socialist German Workers’ Party” was around for over a decade before they started the holocaust. It seems like too little too late to wait until the genocide begins to start drawing parallels.
In theory you are not wrong but you ignore that language evolves, in modern times it means someone agrees or at least sympathizes with NSDAP ideology/ideas and no “they don’t hate Jews so they are different” is not an excuse Nazis back in the days only chose Jews because they were a minority and could be blamed for everything.
Ah, sorry, our mistake.
Neo-nazi. Is that better?
sure, for a smaller segment of republicans
im criticizing the broad strokes ppl are making by correlating republicans to “literal” nazis
Well, what do you call someone who takes orders from, defends, and enables fascistic white supremacists openly looking to purify the blood of their country by ordering loyal thugs to violently remove immigrants and jail anyone who opposes them?
Don’t be pedantic.
If someone checks off 9/10 of the qualifiers, treating them like and calling them a nazi is plenty accurate.
Wile I respect your point of view here, you seem to be missing the fact that Nazis didn’t just go away at the end of WWII. Many former Nazis ended up in powerful business and political positions post-wwii, and the ideas maintained popularity with the people the were popular with. This transitioned into neo-nazi-ism, white power skinheads, Aryan Nation, Aryan, brotherhood, modern German AFD part, the 3rd wave of the KKK, countless militia movements, and on and on and on. These all have a direct lineage with the actual Nazis from WWII. When we call these people Nazis, it’s not because we’re being hyperbolic about their beliefs, it’s because they are Nazis.
- Many of these hate groups outright use nazi iconography and self identify as nazis and talk about how much they love hitler.
- I honestly don’t care if the (increasingly passed on due to age) generation that directly experienced WW2 and the events leading up to it are grumpy that the term “nazi” is being used again. I very much DO care about the current world that is dealing with a global resurgence of nazis/“nazis”. History should be learned from and if your only takeaway from WW2 was “German parties that identify as Socialists are bad” then you missed the point.
Just to expand on the last bit some more: World War 2 was (approximately) the early 1940s. I forget what the official dates are but it wasn’t a bubble and there was lead up and ramp down afterwards.
1940 was 85 years ago. So for someone to be a child with meaningful memories of the time puts them closer to 95 right now. For someone to have actively fought (late teens), that gets to 100. This is WHY basically any reputable WW2 historian will have some variation of “I was fortunate enough to talk to so and so before they passed” because… the odds are very “good” they did.
Which contributes a lot towards why we see such a resurgence. All the olds who actually experienced it are dead and not around to say “the fuck is wrong with you”.
Most people mark the start of WW2 with the German/Soviet invasion of Poland in September of 1939, but I would argue it actually started when imperial Japan invaded Manchuria in 1931.
Anyone else noticed a rise in right wing/troll accounts on Lemmy recently?
I have and I don’t like it.
It’s a consequence of the platform getting more popular.
Whats the opposite of Silver Lining? Rust?
I honestly just think the troll farms are expanding to here.
Yep, it’s like I said.
how am I a right wing/troll account for commenting on how language is important
the polarization here is unreal haha
New account and all you’ve done so far on it is argue semantics to defend republicans and Israel by saying “um akshually, that doesn’t fit the strict definition of the word”
And just generally the argument of “you can’t call someone a Nazi until they have gassed their 6 millionth Jew” is a horrifically bad faith argument that only a complete and utter dumbass or someone arguing in bad faith would make.
Sir/Madam, your post currently has no punctuation, or proper capitalization. If you’re going to be a grammar Nazi, you need to lead by example.
Again - i was talking about the effects of not using correct language. Grammar like punctuation was not my point
english isnt even my first language
So, you fail to understand an English term and then try to lecture someone who can?
I agree with all the other comments in this thread. And I would also add that Republicans modus operandi is closer to to German nazis than Italian fascists.
Fascists used violence, an open coup and support from the existing monarchy and government to gain control. Nazis tried the same thing first and failed miserably so next they ran elections and slowly subverted parliamentary democracy to gain the same control. Once they had enough support in parliament they ramped up the violence of the SA militias (equivalent to ICE) to gain a majority and be uncontested.
I disagree with hyperbole, too, however, they’re praising Nazis, arguing for an ethnostate, and following the Nazi playbook to dismantle democracy: that’s pretty close.
You: “Calling people klansmen just because you don’t like their beliefs or opinions belittles what blacks went through. Racist? Sure, but don’t change history”
Guy in a Klan hood beside you: “yeah what he said”
“I do have a Nazi streak”
- Paul Ingrassia
Yeah, I prefer fascist autocrat to make sure people know I’m not fucking around. But nazi (lower case) is a fine shorthand. Neo-nazi almost suggests we’re talking about a non-mainstream movement. MAGA if I want to be specific.
I refer to NSDAP when talking about the German Worker’s Socialist Party that wasn’t really all that socialist and got a lot of funding from Benz and Bavarian Motor Works, and had no small thing for Wagner’s version of the Wotanic mythos.
Did all “nazis” actively do crimes against humanity? Whats the bar they have to hit to be a nazi? Put on a uniform? shoot a roma? say non-aryans are sub human? You want to draw a bright line between national socialists and racists, I’m not going to stop you, but I think nazi is just short hand for bootlicking people who enable the dehumanizing of others at this point in time.
What word would you prefer?
Nazi was a derogatory term used against the national socialist party but was eventually embraced in defiance. Let’s not change history and make nazi some kind of honored title.
I suppose you believe the Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is democratic too.
I think you’re getting the downvotes (and I think I saw a few others mention this) because your argument is rooted in the word keeping the exact definition it was historically created in.
People who ‘simp’ for China are not ‘Mao apologists’ but that’d be a fine enough term for me to understand exactly who, in the modern day, is being insulted.
In similar fashion, no, existing fascists in the republican party are not literally National Socialist German Workers’ Party members, but they DO have a lot of similarities to the values and actions we have distilled down over the last 80 years that we attribute to ‘Nazis’.
So, no, they’re not Nazis, but to call them such isn’t to ‘change history…’ as you put it, and is instead a means of identifying extreme and harmful beliefs with an existing, demonized (for good reason) label to accent the severity of their beliefs as they compare to modern sensibilities related to freedom.
They downvoted you because you became a Dictionary Nazi, the Grammar Nazi’s even less-liked younger brother
Really? It doesn’t also extend to people who follow their beliefs, have power in government, have literal Nazi tattoos, and are installing far right fascism throughout the world as we speak? Are literally seig heiling at political rallies?
Like sorry son, but I don’t just think you’re wrong here, I think you’re so far off the mark you’re hitting Jupiter with that shit.
Go home, grammar Nazi, your ignorance of how linguistic usage determines meaning is showing
Well, you’re a fucking idiot.
Where does the meaning come from? God? Are we in a video game where someone programmed words to have specific meaning? I never understood where the root authority comes from. Many people are using Nazi to describe fascists but if you can’t derive meaning from how people use words… where does the authority come from?
Shut the fuck up.
I mean, that character was a literal Nazi though… Like from WW2
Ooof.
Nazi, just like fascist has become an almost generic insult to hurl at people who want to enforce rules, you don’t like.
This goes back to the original Nazi times even. The German communists labeled the social democracy as social fascists for years. Of course the social democrats and communists ended up in the same concentration camps later on.
Trumpism is working towards more authoritarian tyranny.
I agree it’s sometimes overused but looking at the current leaders of the Republican Party and comparing their views and actions to the definition of fascism, do you really think it’s not accurate? And if so what are the main differences in your view?
Trump himself has called his political opponents fascists.
There’s a pretty big ideological difference between Italian fascists and NSDAP Nazis. Trumpism works in even other ways.
Arguing about Nazi and fascist comparisons is a waste of time. It’s better to talk about actually bad things Trump and his ilk are doing and talk about doing.
Constant Nazi and Hitler comparisons do little to illuminate this.
Trumpism is very American in ways that Nazism and Fascism were not.
Some examples: Mussolini and Hitler had came from a humble background. They both were veterans of WW1 and relatively young when starting their political career. Trump is an old man billionaire deeply connected to the establishment. Nazis and Fascists instituted broad social programs and improvements for the working class. Trump does the opposite. Fascism and Nazism were progressive and revolutionary. Trumpism is more reactionary. Sure, there are also parallels that can be drawn.
Trump has more in common with Victor Orban, Putin, Juan Péron, or many of the long list of Latin American dictators.
I’ve also heard that Trump really likes McDonald’s, and Hitler didn’t even have a McDonald’s—pretty crazy how different they truly are.
Hitler was vegetarian.
For more serious differences see what happened after they took power. The state governments were immediately taken over by central government. Under Trump the state governments are able to hold on to power and actually mount resistance. There’s also no totalitarian measures to centralize all unions or other organizations into one. Trumpism is very American and harkens back to the gilded age oligarchy. Nazis and fascism wanted a revolutionary new modern society. Musk and Thiel are the parts of MAGA that have this component a bit. They are the avant-garde, but not the core of Trumpism.
What in the fascist apologism? Buds pull the fucking head out of your arse.
